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Cobra Kai said:
As a coordinator in college?  In the NFL?  As a head coach?  The dudes forgotten more about the game than frost knows.

I couldn't care less how well UMASS did offensively in an arbitrary season...or anything like that.  

Not that this really matters...because players change and sos changes, but Pitt was 11th this year in yards per point and 16th in points per play.

Nebraska was 111th and 71st in those categories. 

The guy can coach, has proven it at every level, with high success going back to his head coaching job at new haven where they were dubbed the best offense in all of college football.. that was a long time ago.  Whipple will be a much better play caller and, regardless of yards, we will score way more efficiently than under frost. 
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Not saying he can't coach but I don't anticipate our offense to be elite year 1. Hope I am surprised, and it happens though. 

 
Hedley Lamarr said:
Frost as OC at Oregon

Frost 2013 565 ypg 45.5 ppg

Frost 2014 547 ypg 45.4 ppg

Whipples best year as OC at Pitt

Whipple 2021 486.7 ypg 41.4 ppg
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…with the aberration of a Heisman caliber QB.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Whipple is a very good coach and will help us in numerous ways but it gets a bit tiresome when people attribute too much credit to coaches when they stumble upon top level talent. I believe a fair amount of that happened with Frost at Oregon and UCF as well. Hopefully Thompson is that good that he makes the staff look like sorcerers.

 
Hedley Lamarr said:
I cannot count how many times I have witnessed a beautiful play call that was ruined because of an error by a player somewhere on the field. Missed block, incorrect read, poor throw etc. 
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… or a penalty or false start. Execution was as much to blame as play calling. Both failed at crucial times, repeatedly.

 
JJ Husker said:
…with the aberration of a Heisman caliber QB.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Whipple is a very good coach and will help us in numerous ways but it gets a bit tiresome when people attribute too much credit to coaches when they stumble upon top level talent. I believe a fair amount of that happened with Frost at Oregon and UCF as well. Hopefully Thompson is that good that he makes the staff look like sorcerers.
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Isn't that like, part of the job?

 
Hedley Lamarr said:
Not saying he can't coach but I don't anticipate our offense to be elite year 1.
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Whipple's year 1 at his last 2 stops has been rough.  

Whipple's scoring offense rank by year:

2014 UMass #78 27.3 ppg

2015 UMass #108 22.2 ppg

2016 UMass #110 23.3 ppg

2017 UMass #47 30.6 ppg

2018 UMass #35 32.8 ppg

2019 Pitt #112 21.2 ppg

2020 Pitt #58 29.0 ppg

2021Pitt #3 43.0 ppg

For reference, Nebraska was #71 at 27.9 ppg this past year.

 
Red Five said:
Whipple's year 1 at his last 2 stops has been rough.  

Whipple's scoring offense rank by year:

2014 UMass #78 27.3 ppg

2015 UMass #108 22.2 ppg

2016 UMass #110 23.3 ppg

2017 UMass #47 30.6 ppg

2018 UMass #35 32.8 ppg

2019 Pitt #112 21.2 ppg

2020 Pitt #58 29.0 ppg

2021Pitt #3 43.0 ppg

For reference, Nebraska was #71 at 27.9 ppg this past year.
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Which I wonder does getting Casey early help in that department? Bring able to learn more and take in more?

 
Red Five said:
Whipple's year 1 at his last 2 stops has been rough.  

Whipple's scoring offense rank by year:

2014 UMass #78 27.3 ppg

2015 UMass #108 22.2 ppg

2016 UMass #110 23.3 ppg

2017 UMass #47 30.6 ppg

2018 UMass #35 32.8 ppg

2019 Pitt #112 21.2 ppg

2020 Pitt #58 29.0 ppg

2021Pitt #3 43.0 ppg

For reference, Nebraska was #71 at 27.9 ppg this past year.
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Worth pointing out what he was taking over - UMass in 2013 averaged 11.7 points per game, good for 123rd. They were also 122nd in YPG. A one year jump to 27ppg/78th was incredibly impressive and unsustainable, which is why they dropped back down a bit (still double what he took over) before the sustained growth.

2018 Pitt was 94th in ppg (25.6), and 98th in YPG. Also had to replace 2 1,000 yard rushers. 

Meanwhile as you pointed out, we were below average PPG but also 21st in YPG - so he's working from a better starting place, and I'm optimistic it can be a quicker fix. He does have to replace a 4-year starter at QB but the portal made that a lot easier.

 
Red Five said:
Whipple's year 1 at his last 2 stops has been rough.  

Whipple's scoring offense rank by year:

2014 UMass #78 27.3 ppg

2015 UMass #108 22.2 ppg

2016 UMass #110 23.3 ppg

2017 UMass #47 30.6 ppg

2018 UMass #35 32.8 ppg

2019 Pitt #112 21.2 ppg

2020 Pitt #58 29.0 ppg

2021Pitt #3 43.0 ppg

For reference, Nebraska was #71 at 27.9 ppg this past year.
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Pitt transitioned from a super run heavy offense to a pass heavy attack.  They did a 180°shift in philosophy.   It's not apples to apples, at all.

 
Nebfanatic said:
Isn't that like, part of the job?
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Recruiting that talent, yes.

But it still requires some luck and things out of the coaches control. I would say quite a bit of luck was involved in that particular quarterback going to Pitt. TBH, I don’t know if Whipple recruited him or not. Guessing he didn’t?

 
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