Predict the season outcome based on what we've seen thus far

The simplification will no doubt help as well as the confidence boost from the SDSU game. Throw in a bye week and I like our chances Saturday. I worry about the defense and what might get thrown at them but overall I think we can adjust any early issues and come away with a comfy win.

 
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f'ing guy quotes two sentences from your entire paragraph, ignores the rest of everything you said and then claims you wish it was 1995 again. Is this what they call trolling? I honestly didn't think this guy was a troll.

The only ranked team we've played on our schedule held this offensive juggernaut at Nebraksa scoreless for an entire second half of football. Hate to tell ya bud, but there are three or four teams on the schedule that could also be ranked by the time we get to them......I hope your impressive numbers hold up.
Nah, i don't think Guy is trolling but there are plenty of posters that still wish it was 1995. I think Guy's point is that if you focus on being "great" at one thing there is a good chance you're going drop in production elswhere and may not even be as successful as the "one" thing you're supposed to be good at. Being multiple gives you the ability to spread things around, keep everyone involved and makes the defense prepare for more.

Yeah UCLA held NU scoreless for the second half but there were good passes in there that got dropped on third downs too as well as Abdullah's fumble. I think more people need to realize what a TOTAL team game college football has become. Offense and Defense go hand in hand and play off of each other.
Key is, I said great at "something" not" one" thing. I didn't mean it as we should limit ourselves to one thing. That doesn't make any sense and I don't se how it even came across that way. I said establish a go to. Something you feel like you can rely on when other things are not working so well. You can't always be a one dimensional offense and be successful. You can't try to execute your entire playbook each game and be successful either IMO. I think Nebraska has hurt itself by tryin to do too much on both sides of the ball......

But what the f#*k do I know.
I guess i took being great at "something" as being good at say power running, or the option, or the zone read etc.....kind of depends how you define it. what i gather is your saying we need a "bread and butter" for crucial times in the game? If that's the case, i totally agree. Beck would probably tell you that he does and its called the toss sweep lol.

It does look they may try too many different things, but that may just depend on the peronnel as well (namely the qb). you're guess is as good as mine, but the yardage does indicate that the offense can work imo.

 
See I think this offense has settled into its bread and butter: a combination of speed and power running backs taking it up the middle, high percentage sideline and crossing passes to loosen up the linebackers, and team speed that can break any of these plays into huge gains.

I don't know any team that wouldn't want to impose its will with as few plays as possible. You might do that against physically weaker teams. But good defenses scout your bread and butter, and adjust accordingly.

I honestly don't think Beck's offense is too complicated or too cute. They're averaging 500 yards and 43 points a game. They're doing something right and I think they're fun to watch.

 
The yard and point totals have been good, no question. I just feel like we dont strike any fear into opposing defenses like we should. The turnovers probably have alot to do with that. It would be nice though to have D lines worried all week about what were capable of. Right now were piling yards on the season but it feels like were doing it quietly. We should go out Saturday and not be afraid to drop 60+ on them. If we cant stop teams they better be prepared to try and stop us. Demand respect.

 
But since you didn't read what I said, and I constantly have people here at Huskerboard being a smartass to me and putting words in my mouth, let me make it simple for you.

We don't have an offense that executes multiple things to perfection. We bumble up the run game just as much as we bumble up the passing game and if you don't see that then I don't know who the f#*k you are watching friendo.
I read your post carefully, True. Preferring an offense that can impose its will whenever it wants isn't really an insight. It's a fantasy.

And if you think my post constitutes trolling, you really need to get around the internet more.

This isn't a perfect offense. But it's a pretty fun offense. It has us back among the Top 10 rushing offenses in the country. It's one of the better overall offenses in the Big 10. It's good enough to be a headache for opposing DCs. I don't think it's too complicated or too cute.

And to characterize Abdullah, Cross, Martinez, Bell, Enunwa, Turner & Beck as bumblers is kinda chickensh#t in my book.

But your mileage may vary.

 
I read your post carefully, True. Preferring an offense that can impose its will whenever it wants isn't really an insight. It's a fantasy.

And if you think my post constitutes trolling, you really need to get around the internet more.

This isn't a perfect offense. But it's a pretty fun offense. It has us back among the Top 10 rushing offenses in the country. It's one of the better overall offenses in the Big 10. It's good enough to be a headache for opposing DCs. I don't think it's too complicated or too cute.

And to characterize Abdullah, Cross, Martinez, Bell, Enunwa, Turner & Beck as bumblers is kinda chickensh#t in my book.

But your mileage may vary.
Well in my opinion, Saturday against SDSU was the first time all season this offense has actually looked like a cohesive unit. I think the offense has looked very up and down prior to that. Very jekyl and hyde. Whether that was Becks change in approach to how the offense practiced or if it was TA and RK3 at QB, I'm not sure. There really isn't enough on film to make a judgment on that. The stats you've quoted mean something, but against the competition we've played, it means little. The only team I feel is the level of talent as us was UCLA, and despite any numbers you take from that game, I thought the offense looked pretty bad. Funny you don't think it's too complicated, yet Beck felt maybe he needed to simplify things a bit. Hmmm......I guess you know better than the coach.

I call you again putting words in my mouth chicken sh#t. Again, I never said Abdullah, bell, turner, Martinez, cross and beck are bumblers. Matter of fact, those are some badass players right there. Have they had the year to date that I thought they would have? No. They would probably agree. If anything, it's funny you threw those players names out there as if I said them because its actually quite the opposite. Our skill players are second to none or second to few. If any group has largely underperformed I would say the offensive line is the standout amongst the offense as underperformimg. It has certainly not been the strength we thought it would be.

I wouldn't put it all on players or coaches. It is shared. But I don't think a rhythm has been established in most of our games. I think the play calling has been questionable at times. Which is why, back to my original point, I think a "staple" a "go to" for this offense would help a lot. Establish a rhythm. Develop some timing. Get these guys into the flow of the game with "something" we are very comfortable in doing. How you can continue to argue with that? I don't know and no longer care.

We will certainly find out about this offense and what makes it successful or unsuccessful in the next few months.

 
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I really have no clue how we will do the rest of this season. It is a weak schedule ... it is a pathetic B1G ... so I don't know how to project wins and losses and even what those mean. I thought UCLA was better then us ... and they were. I'm hopeful we stand up strong against the B1G teams and then get waxed in a bowl ... but after these first four games I still have no feel for this team and then we have all the drama.

 
I have never been so unsure about how a season is going to go since the Clownahan era and even then I had somewhat of an idea. Sam Gordon could put up a hundred on this defense and our offense looks amazing when we're playing an FCS team and starting our backup quarterbacks.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if this was Pelini's worst season since he's been here.

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I'm not a big fan of being "multiple" what is multiple? Have we ever really seen our offense adapt to a good defense? Uh... no, not really. Beck refers to his offense as "The Mutt" or what have you. That tells me his offense has no identity. I'll take a smash mouth pro style offense any day of the week over this stuff. Oregon has much, much better athletes on O than we do they recruit better offensively.

I do miss having a bruising rushing attack. Option is great and all but pounding the rock at a D is admirable to me. I love a punishing ground game!

 
You can be "multiple" without being a jack of every trade under the sun

You simply do not have enough practice time to get good at everything we try to do

You can be very average with a bunch of incompatible stuff or be very good at a few

That DOESNT mean Im suggesting we should be only a Power Running Team- that is how the 500 page playbook fans twist it

You can be a descent Power Running Team and excel in a couple of other facets of the game

The problem is, Beck admitted he watches opponent film, or even recruit filmes, he watches a lot of games on TV and when he sees something he likes, the mad scientist in his mind goes off and he bolts it onto our offense

Well after awhile that car we are driving ends up looking like something that a 15 year old built out of a very large junkyard, when a well running Volvo with a few engine adjustments and special tires would have allowed us to efficiently get from point a to point b. Nothing meshes, nothing works quite right and it ends up being an Edsel with lots of Chevy, Ford, Nissan, Honda and Mercedes parts hanging off of it. It has front a rear spoilers, curb feelers, front scoop, fender extenders, a CB radio, 8 track and DVD player, TV and a full low rider package. You see flashes of brilliance coupled with stretches where nothing goes right, the Jekyl and Hyde thing we have been very accustomed to seeing. Turnovers- a natural with that approach.

We are: a power running team, a speed option team, a zone read option team, an inside/outside zone running team, a West Coast Offense team, a Spread team, a Tony Franklin Mesh/shallow team, a Constraint play action team and some other home grown stuff like the zone read/pass read option or even triple option handoff to the TB thing we did last year

Remember that TO never even ran the Triple Option- because it took too much time to perfect

That doesnt just go for running team- read Mike Leachs book

His prolific passing teams at TTEch with average talent- they had just a handful of plays he had written down on a 1/4 piece of paper

The TT QBs wrist band only had about 20-25 plays on it. They could install their entire offense in 1 week (BTW Im not a big fan of Leach, but have run some of his stuff)

They could run a play with a tag which meant it was run out of a different formation, BUT his kids practiced just a handful of concepts and got GREAT at them, just like NU did with what they did in the 90s. They ran all curl, shallow, mesh, smash, snag, all shakes, stick and thats about it. It was all about execution and perfecting a few concepts. Did it look complex? Maybe, but it wasnt at all. Heck in practice his receivers didnt even warm up, they did "dynamic" warmups by running short slow routes or they even would run plays slowly- IE they didnt waste practice time.

Well to get good at that kind of stuff, which we run a little of and good at everything else we try to run, there is very little chance we get REALLY good at any of it. Hence Beck talking about whitiling the playbook down and doing more of what DR Tom did- which was every week going into a specific game knowing 90% of what you run was a grouping of 12-18 plays. That grouping of plays MAY vary a bit from week to week depending on who you are playing, but that week you are repping that specific grouping like crazy WHILE MAKING SURE you have plenty of time to continue developing fundamentals- like ball security, blocking, throwing, catching etc etc When you spend the majority of your practice time repping and installing plays- not a lot of time left for developing basic skills.

 
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I also read a Beck interview where he stated he has a sheet that recorded touches, and some of his playcalling was influenced by getting certain players touches. He was calling a game and thinking, I need to get player X a touch on the next play, his words.This may have contributed to the "car riding like it has bad gas" example I gave earlier. Herky, jerky and unpredictable instead of consistent and smooth.

Ive met Tim Beck, spent some time with him, I like him a lot, great guy, Im a fan, but I'm hoping his playcalling would be influenced more by what the defense is doing than by trying to make sure all of our kids get a certain % of touches.This years offense is an embarrassment of riches when it comes to talent, a lot of very talented and proven guys at nearly every spot. But let's just win the game and score boatloads of points before we start worrying about number of touches for our 3rd team WR. That's a lot to proccess in the heat of "battle"- just find the optimal play and run it. When we are up by 30 points, then worry about getting our third team xs and zs their touches.

 
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What I can't stand is the gimmick (Micky mouse) plays our "O" appeared to run with that swinging gate type throwing. That is OK to do once in a while just to see if you can get your RB on a one and one situation and out run or out maneuver the defender but holy smokes, didn't we run that same type of play about 15 times in the UCLA game?

It does not matter to me what we end up using as our bread and butter (run or pass) but I agree with some other posters who have said that we looked much more (in sync) and showed a better rhythm with TA and RKIII running the plays against SDSU. Is that because of the play calling or inferior opponent or our personnel change? I don't know but we looked much more efficient getting lined up and running the plays and did not have that (high school look) that we had the prior 3 games! IMO

 
It was a combo of all 3. New QBs are always a welcimed change by the fans when the starter has so much turmoil following him. The opponent was never going to be able to defend our powerful offense for 4 quarters. And the play calling was smoother overall after the meltdown the week before. Look for a smooth but simple offense Saturday with a handful of explosive plays.

 
It's both the receivers job AND the QBs job to make sure we have 7 players on the LOS

Basic 101 stuff, prior to starting the cadence- the QB checks the offensive alignment, which includes making sure the correct guys are on and off the LOS

I HATE a THIRD AND 2 THAT IS NOW THIRD AND 7 THANKS TO inept simple fundamental stuff like this not being taken care of.

Lose a close game where you play well, get beat by a much better team, I'm fine with all that- Im not fine with beating ourselves with very correctible stuff

 
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