Prince Amukamara

[BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA]

Honestly, I don't know why people get so up tight about it. Are they so afraid that we'll won't recruit another player in that position in the next 4 years that you have to tuck them away?

But if a recruit sees how someone at his position is misused then he likely won't come here.

I submit that the misuse of Bobby Newcome by Coach Solich turned many possible recruits off to Nebraska and started the spiral.

 

[DaveH]

Honestly, I don't know why people get so up tight about it. Are they so afraid that we'll won't recruit another player in that position in the next 4 years that you have to tuck them away?

But if a recruit sees how someone at his position is misused then he likely won't come here.

I submit that the misuse of Bobby Newcome by Coach Solich turned many possible recruits off to Nebraska and started the spiral.

No way.

Why?

Every freshman wants to get on the field. Ask any freshman if they want to redshirt and they will tell you no. Why? Because they want to play.

We as fans want to tuck them away.

 

[I Bleed RED]

well 10 if we are lucky. I hope you are right about him playing. We just don't see much of it in the past.

I hope so too, but if he's gonna be valuable he's gotta get out there in some capacity. It seems sometimes people, no necessarily you, would rather see someone "burn" a redshirt catching a touchdown pass or something. How reasonable is that?

I agree. The only reason to use a RS is if he can contribute every game with an impact or he can play every game for experience. If a guy plays 3 plays a game because he runs fast and can go deep then that is wasting his redshirt even if he catches a few touchdowns.

 

[Husker Runner]

Sure they want to play. But if they give up a season for a few inconsequential plays, they often come to regret that decision later.

 

[DaveH]

well 10 if we are lucky. I hope you are right about him playing. We just don't see much of it in the past.

I hope so too, but if he's gonna be valuable he's gotta get out there in some capacity. It seems sometimes people, no necessarily you, would rather see someone "burn" a redshirt catching a touchdown pass or something. How reasonable is that?

I agree. The only reason to use a RS is if he can contribute every game with an impact or he can play every game for experience. If a guy plays 3 plays a game because he runs fast and can go deep then that is wasting his redshirt even if he catches a few touchdowns.

So you're almost damned if you do, damned if you don't then right? I mean no one has a crystal ball as to see what he's going to do in the future. So really, how can it be a waste if it's done with good intentions?

Maybe not with Prince particularly, but if you want to provide real competition to a flailing defense don't you have to get some of the younger kids involved? Wouldn't that involve "burning" red shirt seasons?

 

[Husker Runner]

It's not much different than a college baseball coach overusing his star pitcher to the point where it becomes detrimental to the kid's long term career. Sure, the pitcher doesn't want to be taken out of the game, but if he burns out his arm that is a huge disservice to the kid. (All IMHO, of course.)

A college coach should be concerned about the players' best interests, as well as his own. Burning a redshirt for a few plays early in the season, especially in blowout games, is not typically in a kid's best interest. If Niles Paul is relegated to a few special teams plays the rest of the year, then his redshirt was wasted.

 

[I Bleed RED]

well 10 if we are lucky. I hope you are right about him playing. We just don't see much of it in the past.

I hope so too, but if he's gonna be valuable he's gotta get out there in some capacity. It seems sometimes people, no necessarily you, would rather see someone "burn" a redshirt catching a touchdown pass or something. How reasonable is that?

I agree. The only reason to use a RS is if he can contribute every game with an impact or he can play every game for experience. If a guy plays 3 plays a game because he runs fast and can go deep then that is wasting his redshirt even if he catches a few touchdowns.

So you're almost damned if you do, damned if you don't then right? I mean no one has a crystal ball as to see what he's going to do in the future. So really, how can it be a waste if it's done with good intentions?

Maybe not with Prince particularly, but if you want to provide real competition to a flailing defense don't you have to get some of the younger kids involved? Wouldn't that involve "burning" red shirt seasons?

I think playing during some series that are important but not critical like they used Hule today and Castille are good examples. Then if we are in a blowout game either way they can play more during those times. They just can't play in a 'few games' and special teams. I guarantee we have someone who can do that. It's not burning if you get valuable experience. Beck was an example of 'burning' since it's easy to remember.

 

[DaveH]

I think playing during some series that are important but not critical like they used Hule today and Castille are good examples. Then if we are in a blowout game either way they can play more during those times. They just can't play in a 'few games' and special teams. I guarantee we have someone who can do that. It's not burning if you get valuable experience. Beck was an example of 'burning' since it's easy to remember.

OK.

In my opinion, Beck's situation was a bit different. Apparently he was the 2nd best QB on the team. The #1 QB goes down, you have to put your best foot forward. Which apparently was Beck. If you don't, you aren't giving your team the best chance to win by intentionally not playing the best players.

 

[I Bleed RED]

I think playing during some series that are important but not critical like they used Hule today and Castille are good examples. Then if we are in a blowout game either way they can play more during those times. They just can't play in a 'few games' and special teams. I guarantee we have someone who can do that. It's not burning if you get valuable experience. Beck was an example of 'burning' since it's easy to remember.

OK.

In my opinion, Beck's situation was a bit different. Apparently he was the 2nd best QB on the team. The #1 QB goes down, you have to put your best foot forward. Which apparently was Beck. If you don't, you aren't giving your team the best chance to win by intentionally not playing the best players.

I totally agree with that, what I don't understand is not playing him some throughout the year once your hand was forced into using him. If Leak could come off the field and Tebow played a little last year than BC could have found time for Beck once he was eligible.

 

[zoogs]

I think playing during some series that are important but not critical like they used Hule today and Castille are good examples. Then if we are in a blowout game either way they can play more during those times. They just can't play in a 'few games' and special teams. I guarantee we have someone who can do that. It's not burning if you get valuable experience. Beck was an example of 'burning' since it's easy to remember.

OK.

In my opinion, Beck's situation was a bit different. Apparently he was the 2nd best QB on the team. The #1 QB goes down, you have to put your best foot forward. Which apparently was Beck. If you don't, you aren't giving your team the best chance to win by intentionally not playing the best players.

I totally agree with that, what I don't understand is not playing him some throughout the year once your hand was forced into using him. If Leak could come off the field and Tebow played a little last year than BC could have found time for Beck once he was eligible.

He did, there was one more game that season, Colorado, and Beck played in it. He went 0 for 4, by the way.

Alright, if you want to get technical, there was also Michigan, but as you'll remember there was a fine reason for not playing Beck in the Michigan game.

 

[REDSTEEL]

Honestly, I don't know why people get so up tight about it. Are they so afraid that we'll won't recruit another player in that position in the next 4 years that you have to tuck them away?

But if a recruit sees how someone at his position is misused then he likely won't come here.

I submit that the misuse of Bobby Newcome by Coach Solich turned many possible recruits off to Nebraska and started the spiral.

No way.

Why?

Every freshman wants to get on the field. Ask any freshman if they want to redshirt and they will tell you no. Why? Because they want to play.

We as fans want to tuck them away.

Kurt Dukes didn't :rollin

 

[TheKiD]

Beck was a totally different situation. It was at the end of the season and we were in a close game. The coaches thought he would be the best QB to put in to give us a chance to win.

Putting Prince in to play special teams is asinine, unless they are planning on using him a fair amount the rest of the year. If they only use him on special teams for the rest of the year, I'll be a bit pissed.. and I'm sure he will too.

 

[I Bleed RED]

I think playing during some series that are important but not critical like they used Hule today and Castille are good examples. Then if we are in a blowout game either way they can play more during those times. They just can't play in a 'few games' and special teams. I guarantee we have someone who can do that. It's not burning if you get valuable experience. Beck was an example of 'burning' since it's easy to remember.

OK.

In my opinion, Beck's situation was a bit different. Apparently he was the 2nd best QB on the team. The #1 QB goes down, you have to put your best foot forward. Which apparently was Beck. If you don't, you aren't giving your team the best chance to win by intentionally not playing the best players.

I totally agree with that, what I don't understand is not playing him some throughout the year once your hand was forced into using him. If Leak could come off the field and Tebow played a little last year than BC could have found time for Beck once he was eligible.

He did, there was one more game that season, Colorado, and Beck played in it. He went 0 for 4, by the way.

Alright, if you want to get technical, there was also Michigan, but as you'll remember there was a fine reason for not playing Beck in the Michigan game.

Fair enough but it was meant as an example of a wasted redshirt since he didn't get in during parts of games that mattered against CU and Michigan

 

[zoogs]

That's true, it would have been nice if he had gotten a little more time against CU because that game was ours fairly early on. But against Michigan, I don't think you throw in a true frosh in a tight bowl game in parts of the game that mattered. We barely won that game, and Taylor was the guy who came back and won it for us. You don't think of giving some heralded true frosh recruit PT in a game like that. In garbage time, sure. There wasn't a single second of that vs Michigan.

 

[I Bleed RED]

That's true, it would have been nice if he had gotten a little more time against CU because that game was ours fairly early on. But against Michigan, I don't think you throw in a true frosh in a tight bowl game in parts of the game that mattered. We barely won that game, and Taylor was the guy who came back and won it for us. You don't think of giving some heralded true frosh recruit PT in a game like that. In garbage time, sure. There wasn't a single second of that vs Michigan.

I understand what you are saying but Florida did it in the Naitonal title game, and we were in a mid-level bowl game and the future at that point is half the reason of the bowl game, reward for the season and to get the players ready for next year.