Projecting the Depth Chart

[NUinID]

Last year we mostly played a "field" and "boundary" safety. Smith was usually to the short side of the field (closest to the sideline) while Stafford was usually to the wide side.

I think I remember reading that verbiage and concept mentioned in an LJS article a while go. Thanks a bunch for reminding me. As such, I agree with whateveritis1224 that projecting for a traditional FS-SS split doesn't seem to be the best exercise.

if CJ is the saftey to drop into the box to stop the run i hope he hits the weight room not sure how effective it would be dropping a 175 pound ex corner into the box compared to cooper, harvey jackson or singleton who are all 200+ but if CJ's the best guy then play him

Definitely agree that it would help to get some mass added to him, he looks really skinny. But I think the dude at 175 packs the wallop of a guy 15-20 pounds more than him. He seems like a well-compressed ball of energy based on what coaches and players describe and the limited special teams action I've seen. The guy stonewalled a couple KR's/PR's this year and has showed so far, even with a limited sample size, that he is a sound tackler.

To your point, I do think that CJ at 175 would perform better as a safety that plays run-support in the box than Cooper, singleton, and harvey at 200+ (though to be fair, I haven't really seen much of Harvey or Singleton). I know that sounds pretty ridiculous saying a 175lb DB being better in run-support than a 200lb guy in any other circumstance, but that's really how high I think of CJ. I'm drinking the kool-aid big time on this guy and I've seen enough flashes of elite ability to conclude that he looks on course to develop into an elite DB. And If CJ gets to the 190-200 range without losing speed, forget about it. He'll be a blackshirt for a while.

mike minter played safety at NU at about 180lbs and then played for a long time in the NFL. Being able to his has little to do with mass. It is nice to have bigger guys, but if they can hit they can hit.

 

[Saint Boseph]

Lavonte David is living proof, that size isn't always what makes you the best player. Its mostly technique, knowledge for the game and speed. People said David was too small to play LB in the B1G. He proved them more than wrong. The experts also said he would be way to small to play LB in the Pro's, he is a starting LB for Tampa, and is the 2nd leading tackler in all of NFL. Size isn't everything. As long has he has the technique, the smarts to play the position and understand it 110%, and has the speed to cover the edge when needed, he will be the perfect candidate. Rivals had him at 180lbs leaving High School. I could only imagine him gaining a few pounds since then.

Great example. But more often than not, not very many undersized players can make up for the lack of size by excelling in other areas. However Lavonte was one those special ones who could and I think Charles Jackson is one of those guys also. CJ does kind of remind me of a DB version of Lavonte now that you mention him.

 

[NUance]

*Bump*

Here are the various depth chart guesses from six months ago. This will be useful heading into fall camp.

corncraze:

Offense

QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. Stanton RS.

RB - 1. Abdullah, 2. Heard, 3. Cross (short down back)

FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow

WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Allen (hopefully he gets healthy)

WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans

WR - 1. Turner, 2. Wullenwaber, 3. A. Moore

LT - 1. Sirles, Moudy/A-Rod

LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Reeves?

C - 1. Pensick, 2. Mark Pelini?

RG - 1. A-Rod (move him back to G), 2. Jake Cotton?

RT - 1. JUCO hopefully, 2. Qvale

TE - JUCO?

TE - J. Long

Defense

DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen

DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss

DT - 1. Rome, 2. K. Williams

DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Curry

SLB - 1. T. Brown (used heavily on pass rushes), 2. Afalava/M. Newby

MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose

WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos

Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson

Dime - 1. Cooper, 2. Seisay

CB - 1. A. Green/Evans (when not at NB), 2. Jean-Baptiste

CB - 1. J. Rose/A. Green, 2. Mitchell/Siesay

SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Cooper

FS - 1. H. Jackson, 2. Cooper

Special Teams

K - 1. Bondi, 2. some walk-on?

P - 1. Bondi, 2. some walk-on?

KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner

PR - 1. Turner, 2. Bell, 3. A. Moore?

Hedley Lamarr:

Offense

QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. 3. RKIII 4.Stanton RS.

RB - 1. Abdullah/ Heard 2. Cross (short down back) 3. Frazier/Taylor(if Newby comes he will be ahead of both)

FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow

WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Allen (hopefully he gets healthy)

WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans

WR - 1. Turner, 2. Wullenwaber, 3. A. Moore

LT - 1. Sirles, Moudy

LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Reeves?

C - 1. Thurston, 2. Mark Pelini?

RG - 1. Pensick 2. J. Cotton/ A Rod

RT - 1. Qvale 2. Sterup

TE - J. Long

Defense

DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen

DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss

DT - 1. Rome, 2. K Williams/ Valentine

DT - 1. Randle 2. Curry

SLB - 1. Afalava/ T Brown

MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose

WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos

CB - 1. C. Evans 2. Jean-Baptiste

CB - 1. J. Rose/A. Green, 2. Mitchell/Siesay

SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Cooper/ Gerry

FS - 1. H. Jackson, 2. Cooper/ Singleton

Special Teams

K - 1. Bondi, 2. S. Lindsay

P - 1. Bondi, 2. S. Lindsay

KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner/ I wish Heard

PR - 1. Abdullah, 2. Bell, 3. Turner

Haspula:

QB - 1. Martinez, 2. Armstrong. Stanton RS.

RB - 1. Abdullah, 2. Heard, 3. Cross (short down back) 4. King Frazier

FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow

WR(Z) - 1. Enunwa, 2. Taariq Allen

WR(X) - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp 3. Tyler Evans

WR(A) - 1. Turner, 2. Westerkamp 3. Wullenwaber

LT - 1. Qvale 2. Sirles 3. Brandon Thompson

LG - 1. Jake Cotton 2. Price Givens

C - 1. Pensick 2. Mark Pelini

RG - 1. Rynes Reeves 2. Brodrick Nickens 3. Price Givens

RT - 1. Sirles 2. A-Rod 3. Mike Moudy

TE - JUCO(Brandon Vandenburg) 2. Jake Long, 3. Trey Foster

TE - 1. J. Long, 2. Trey Foster

Defense

DE - 1. Ankrah, 2. McMullen

DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss

DT - 1. JUCO(Ben Bradley) 2. Chase Rome 3. Kevin Williams

DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Curry 3. Thad Randle?

SLB - 1. Thomas Brown, 2. Afalava 3. Max Pirmin

MLB - 1.David Santos, 2. M. Rose, 3. Trevor Roach

WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos

Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson

Dime - Corey Cooper

Left CB - 1. Johnathan Rose, 2. Andrew Green 3. Jean-Bapitiste

Right CB - 1. Mohammed Seisay, 2. Josh Mitchell

FS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. DJ sIngelton

SS - 1. Harvey Jackson, 2.Cooper

Special Teams

K - 1. Bondi, 2. Lindsay

P - 1. Bondi, 2. Lindsay

KR - 1. Bell, 2. Turner

PR - 1. Turner, 2. Bell, 3. A. Moore

I remember seeing something that said harvey jackson might transfer

Ed Helms:

Offense

QB - 1. Taylor Martinez, 2. Tommy Armstrong 3. Ron Kellogg III (Would be Johnny Stanton, but he is RS)

RB - 1. Ameer Abdullah, 2. Braylon Heard, 3. Imani Cross 4. Adam Taylor/Terrell Newby

FB - 1. Andy Janovich, 2. Mike Marrow/C.J. Zimmerer

WR - 1. Quincy Enunwa, 2. Taariq Allen 3. Dominic Walker

WR - 1. Kenny Bell 2. Jordan Westerkamp 3. Tyler Evans

WR - 1. Jamal Turner 2. Alonzo Moore 3. Tyler Wullenwaber

LT - 1. Jeremiah Sirles 2. Zach Sterup

LG - 1. S. Long, 2. Ryne Reeves 3. Corey Whitaker

C - 1. Cole Pensick, 2. Paul Thurston 3. Mark Pelini

RG - 1. Jake Cotton 2. Mike Moudy

RT - 1. Brent Qvale 2. Andrew Rodriguez/(Hopefully JUCO Matt Finnin)

TE - 1. Trey Foster/David Sutton (Hopefully JC Vandenburg or convert Max Pirman?) 2. Greg Hart

TE - 1. Jake Long 2. Sam Cotton

Defense

DE - 1. Jason Ankrah, 2. Greg McMullen

DE - 1. Randy Gregory, 2. Avery Moss

DT - 1. Thad Randle/Chase Rome 2. Aaron Curry

DT - 1. Vincent Valentine, 2. Kevin Williams

SLB - 1. Zaire Anderson 2. Jared Afalava

MLB - 1. Michael Rose 2. Trevor Roach 3. Courtney Love

WLB - 1. David Santos 2. Thomas Brown

Nickel - 1. Ciante Evans 2. Daniel Davie

Dime - 1. Corey Cooper 2. Andrew Green

CB - 1. Mohammed Seisay 2. Stanley Jean-Baptiste

CB - 1. Jonathan Rose 2. Josh Mitchell/Andrew Green

SS - 1. Harvey Jackson, 2. Corey Cooper

FS - 1. Charles Jackson, 2. D.J. Singleton/Leroy Alexander

Special Teams

K - 1. Mauro Bondi, 2. Spencer Lindsay

P - 1. Sam Foltz 2. Mauro Bondi

KR - 1. Jamal Turner 2. Braylon Heard 3. Kenny Bell

PR - 1. Jordan Westerkamp 2. Alonzo Moore

The Dude:

QB - Martinez

RB - Abdullah -or- Cross -or- Heard

FB - Janovich

WR - Bell

WR - Enunwa

WR - Turner

TE - Long

LT - Qvale

LG - Cotton

C - Pensick

RG - Long

RT - Sirles

RE - Moss -or- Gregory

DT - Valentine

DT - Rome -or- Curry

LE - Ankrah

LB - Anderson

LB - Token Walk-on #1

LB - Santos

CB - Committee

CB - Committee

SS - Token Walk-on #2

FS - H. Jackson

K - Bondi

P - Token Walk-on #3

OregonHuskerMan:

Offense

QB - 1. Armstrong 2. Martinez RK3 Stanton

RB - 1. Heard 2. Abdullah 3. Cross 4. Taylor 5. Newby

FB - 1. Janovich, 2. Marrow

WR - 1. Enunwa, 2. Dom Walker

WR - 1. Bell, 2. Westerkamp or T. Evans

WR - 1. Turner, 2. ZO 3. Wullen

LT - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well.

LG - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well.

C - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well.

RG - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well.

RT - 1. Don't care. Going to run all over teams anyway. Struggle in pass protection against faster defenses. Inevitable injuries/moving of positions as well.

TE - Sam Cotton / vandenburg / hart / long

TE - See above.

Defense

DE - 1. McMullen, 2Ankrah

DE - 1. Gregory, 2. Moss

DT - 1. Curry 2. K. Williams 3. Thad

DT - 1. Valentine, 2. Rome

SLB - 1. T. Brown , 2. Afalava/M. Newby

MLB - 1. Santos, 2. M. Rose 3. Love

WLB - 1. Z. Anderson, 2. Santos

Nickel - 1. C. Evans, C. Jackson

Dime - 1. Cooper, Davie

CB - 1. Seisay 2. Jean-Baptiste

CB - 1. J. Rose, 2. A. Green, JMitchell

SS - 1. C. Jackson, 2. Leroy Alexander

FS - 1. Marcus McWilson, 2. DJ Singleton

Special Teams

K - 1. Bondi

P - 1. Bondi

KR - 1. Alonzo 2. Turner

PR - 1. Turner, 2. Moore 3. Bell

Sir Alexander Henery:

DE: 1. Randy Gregory 2. Jason Ankrah

DT: 1. Vincent Valentine 2. Kevin Williams

DT: 1. Thaddeus Randle 2. Aaron Curry

DE: 1. Avery Moss 2. Greg McMullen

LOLB: 1. Thomas Brown 2. Jared Afalava

MLB: 1. David Santos 2. Michael Rose

ROLB: 1. Zaire Anderson 2. Marcus Newby/Josh Banderas/Courtney Love (2 will likely RS)

LCB: 1. Jonathan Rose 2. Andrew Green 3. Stanley Jean Baptiste

FS: 1. Corey Cooper 2. Leroy Alexander

SS: 1. DJ Singleton 2. Harvey Jackson

RCB: 1. Charles Jackson 2. Mohammed Seisay 3. Ciante Evans

EDIT: If Charles Jackson is sticking at safety then my revised starters in the secondary would be

LCB: J. Rose

FS: Singleton

SS: C. Jackson

RCB: Seisay

 

[NUance]

*bump redux*

 

[HuskerShark]

Offense:

QB: 1. Taylor Martinez 2a. Tommy Armstrong 2b. Johnny Stanton

RB: 1. Ameer 2. Cross 3. Taylor 4. Newby 5. Frazier

FB: 1a. Zimmerer 1b. Janovich

WR: 1. Quincy Enunwa 2. Taariq Allen

WR: 1. Jamal Turner 2. Alonzo Moore

WR: 1. Kenny Bell 2. Jordan Westerkamp

TE: 1. Jake Long 2. Cethan Carter

LT: 1. Jeremiah Sirles 2. Qvale

G: 1. Jake Cotton 2. Pensick

C: 1. Pensick 2. Pelini

G: 1. Long 2. Pensick

RT: 1. Finnin 2. Kondolo

Defense:

DE: 1. Ankrah 2. Moss

DT: 1. Randle 2. Curry 3. Collins

DT: 1. Valentine 2. Nickens 3. Maurice

DE: 1. Gregory 2. McMullen 3. Natter

Nickel: Ciante

CB: 1. Ciante 2. SJB 3. Mitchell 4. Seisay 5. Rose

S: 1. Harvey Jackson 2. Gerry 3. Singleton

S: 1. Charles Jackson 2. Cooper 3. Green

Special Teams:

KR: Kenny Bell and Jamal Turner

PR: Jamal Turner OR Terrell Newby

P: Sam Foltz

K: Mauro Bondi