Well if you scroll up that is what I said I dont understand and more than likely this post has drug on for as long as it has. I said if we were going to do a fake punt, which would have gone for a lot of yards, but in the end we should have just punted, we should have done it with people that are used to having the ball, or a little more athletic, maybe run it with the guy on the other side of the punt team. Coz doesnt suck and I would have loved to hear what you guys were saying about him last year when his defense led the nation in sacks and tackles for loss. Is a coincidence that we lost Bowman, Teitke, and Bullocks with the rest of the team coming back and the defense was that much worse. Why was the pass defense so bad this year and the way it was last year? Your telling me that Bullocks and Bowman were that good that they could just transform the defense from leading the nation to cant stop anyone against the pass? Is it at all possible that Teitke was better than people thought and shanle is as bad as I say he is. Believe me, I am not the only person who thinks like this. Everyone who I have talked to besides maybe three of you on here thinks shanle is also the worst we have had in a while. According to what you guys are saying since we get Bowman back next year we are just going to be great, I sure wish we had shanle back since he was so good. This is going nowhere, Ill just take your opinion that he is great and the coaches suck and I will most defenately keep my opinion on Shanle is far and away the worst defensive back nebraska has ever, ever, ever had. Live with it, its my opinion and I will never, ever, ever change it. I guess we will all see, including the people on here who think shanle is good that with the people playing next year how bad shanle actually was this year. Heres to the future!! (thank god its without shanle)
MAN! Talk about your incoherent piles of drivel. Try proof reading sometime. I would like to make a few last points. If you choose not to answer, then fine move on and stick to your opinion. However, you have not answered some of my questions, you have not addressed some of my points, and you have been putting words in my mouth. I hope when you said you are starting back to school, you plan on taking an argument and debate class. When you have argued your point, you have committed some of the classical fallacies of logic (straw man, circular rhetoric etc.) throughout this thread. You would seem much more intelligent if you would leave them (fallacious arguments) out of the conversation. Now on to my last parting points.
1. I said that I saw great potential in Shanle, only at a different position…perhaps outside linebacker. I never said he was one of our greatest d-backs ever.
2. I don’t possibly think that Shanle can be as bad as some people, particularly you, keep saying. I admit that I have ZERO faith in our defensive staff, but if he were as bad as you say…even those morons wouldn’t leave him in. The only possible alternative is that the coaching staff is even worse than I think, and they agree with you that he is bad, and leave him in anyway; which hardly seems possible.
3. Once again, I have asked the question and have yet to hear a response: What happened to Bullocks? He led the nation in interceptions when Palini was his defensive coordinator. Then when Coz became his coordinator, he was out of position, confused, late on plays, didn’t tackle well. Hmmmm….sound familiar? Sort of like the complaints about Shanle. Nobody doubts Bullocks’ talent; hell he is an NFL starter now. So what happened to him? Perhaps Coz and Coach Emo happened to him. And Daniel Bullocks looked like crap under Coz at times too. Under Palini, he started the last 9 games of 2003 and made 69 takles. He certainly wasn't a standout under Coz, and he is also an NFL player now.
4. Speaking of talent. As another poster above has mentioned; On Coz’s first team as d-coordinator at Nebraska he had Fabian Washington, Daniel Bullocks, Josh Bullocks, and Barrett Ruud on defense (all NFL starters right now) and he also had LeKevin Smith and Bernard Thomas who are on NFL rosters. That’s six out of 11 on that team that made, and have stayed on, NFL rosters. That year we gave up an average of nearly 300 yards per game and over 27 points per game on defense. That’s up from 14 points per game the previous year (that’s right we gave up an extra 13 points per game in Coz’s first year). We went from 32 interceptions down to 14 (a decline in interceptions of 17). All of those declines in defensive production came when 3 out of our 4 starting D-Backs were future NFL starters. Don’t forget that is the year when we gave up 30 points to OU (and lost), we gave up 26 points to CU (and lost), we gave up 45 points to K-State in Lincoln (and lost), we gave up 34 points to Iowa State (and lost), AND ONE OF THE DARKEST DAYS IN HUSKER HISTORY we gave up 70 points to T-Tech (and of course lost). In fact we even gave up 17 points to lowly little division 1AA Western Illinois (at least we won that one). So where did all those defensive meltdowns come from? What was the difference from 2003-2004 (besides the fact that our D suddenly sucked)? That’s right…2004 was when we got good ‘ol Coach Cosgrove. Maybe Shanle isn’t the greatest D-back we ever had. You noticed I have never tried to compare him to Mike Minter, or Tony Veland, or Bret Clark, or Mike Brown? I just said I think there is plenty of evidence that the problem with our defense is more than just one player. It is our coaching staff. THEY SUCKED EVEN WHEN THEY HAD GREAT TALENT!!!
