Question for the Callahan Apologists

[secretasianman]

Because intelligent football people know that Bill Callahan is not head coach material and especially not at the college level.

Right. But "intelligent football people" aren't who the question was directed at. It was directed at all the people on this board who kept saying we needed to keep BC on board for another year or two.

They seem to have gone away. Or they have changed their tunes, and are hiding.

Unfortunately, some people only know the one tune. Look a couple of posts above yours.

You're not really able to look at a situation from multiple angles, are you?

 

[toothlessHusker]

I felt that keeping Callahan would be a lesser risk than hiring the unproven names that have been mentioned.

A lesser risk of what? The program's already in the toilet - what more would you be risking?

 

[knapplc]

Because intelligent football people know that Bill Callahan is not head coach material and especially not at the college level.

Right. But "intelligent football people" aren't who the question was directed at. It was directed at all the people on this board who kept saying we needed to keep BC on board for another year or two.

They seem to have gone away. Or they have changed their tunes, and are hiding.

Unfortunately, some people only know the one tune. Look a couple of posts above yours.

You're not really able to look at a situation from multiple angles, are you?

Are you the pot or the kettle? You have one idea and one idea only - "Callahan should have been given more time." Over and over and over.

 

[T_O_Bull]

With all of the openings out there for HC, I'd be interested in knowing why the "Callahan should have more time" people think he's not even being mentioned in talks for these programs.

If he was such a good coach that WE should keep him, doesn't it stand to reason that his name would be mentioned in some other search as even a minor candidate?

Just goes to show you that people can be a fan without knowing football. There's nothing wrong with that, unless people let their opinion and their mouth get in front of their better judgment.

:yeah

 

[hskerprid]

With all of the openings out there for HC, I'd be interested in knowing why the "Callahan should have more time" people think he's not even being mentioned in talks for these programs.

If he was such a good coach that WE should keep him, doesn't it stand to reason that his name would be mentioned in some other search as even a minor candidate?

Just goes to show you that people can be a fan without knowing football. There's nothing wrong with that, unless people let their opinion and their mouth get in front of their better judgment.

Just because some people supported Callahan with a new defensive staff, does not mean that they don't know anything about football. That is an extremely arrogant and condescending statement. If you are such an educated football mind, then why aren't you being paid the big bucks coaching somewhere?

I didn't support Callahan because I felt that he was the best coach out there. I supported him because I felt that if he hired a new "Pelini-style" D-coordinator, things could have been very different. I supported him because I felt that he didn't have enough time. Prior to this season, there was NO evidence that a defensive meltdown was imminent. In fact, the defense was looking tougher closing out last season by limiting Colorado, Oklahoma and Auburn. Some say he should have fired Cosgrove earlier-- but I challenge you by saying that there was no evidence prior to this season that a defensive change was needed, and secondly, he can't be expected to fire Cosgrove during the season.

I felt that keeping Callahan would be a lesser risk than hiring the unproven names that have been mentioned.

Giving Callahan 1 or 2 more seasons with a new DC would be an equal risk to a totally new staff. I think that if the staff had met Osborne's benchmarks, Callahan would have fired Cosgrove anyways.

Ultimately, the fact is that Callahan could not meet Osborne's benchmarks and there is no argument to that. I support Osborne's decision, however I also feel that Callahan could have turned it around.

Why isn't he being mentioned for any jobs?? Easy. His 27-22 record. Is he the best coach out there? No-- he was a first time college head coach who had to learn on the job. He learned in his 4th season that he needs a better defense and that a mobile qb makes his offense better. He learned that he has the offensive weapons in place, and it's time to go and recruit a championship defense. He learned that Nebraska isn't patient.

How much time are you willing to give Pelini?

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"He cant be expected to fire Coz in the middle of the season" Well lets see, Texas Tech had the cajones to do just that, when it needed to be done. Had Callihan done the same he still might have his job. Just another of his many shortcomings :hellloooo

 

[secretasianman]

OK-- there are some narrow minded people here that think "Gee, if a guy thinks Callahan should have been given more time, then he must also think that Callahan is the best coach of all time!!"

Most people presented the idea that Callahan needed to go. I simply presented an OPINION, that it's not the only idea that should be considered.

Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

Bottom line, Callahan didn't meet Osborne's benchmarks--- so why are you beating a dead horse knapp?

 

[knapplc]

OK-- there are some narrow minded people here that think "Gee, if a guy thinks Callahan should have been given more time, then he must also think that Callahan is the best coach of all time!!"

Most people presented the idea that Callahan needed to go. I simply presented an OPINION, that it's not the only idea that should be considered.

Why is that so hard for some people to understand?

Bottom line, Callahan didn't meet Osborne's benchmarks--- so why are you beating a dead horse knapp?

I asked the question because it occurred to me just now in the discussion of Miles to Michigan, and all the other coaching changes. It's a valid question.

I wanted to know what the apologists think now, when the guy they were espousing isn't being given any consideration whatsoever for any of the open positions out there, and to see if anyone had changed their mind with all of the mounting evidence that other people out there don't think Callahan should be a HC either.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Fine I'll bite.

The reason he hasn't been mentioned is just like the rest of the HC that have been fired, people will wait to take a chance on them for at least a year or two. It is the same thing that happened to Solich. The dude at Ole Miss helped build USC yet he struggled as a HC and he isn't being mentioned the same can be said for that joker at A&M (although he quit before he could be fired). Unless these guys take lesser jobs at a lower school they are more then likely going to have to be an AC for a couple years. That is just the way it works most of the time. Look at Larry Coker he won a NC and he doesn't get mentioned for anything.

You are kidding yourself if you don't think Callahan will have another job next year. More then likely it will be in the NFL but he will be on a staff when the next season starts.

As I've stated before I will back whoever the coach is at the UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA and that is whether I think they are good or not. Our complaining and belly-aching does nothing for nobody and at the end of the day will accomplish nothing except for division.

 

[knapplc]

Houston Nutt ring a bell, newearth? He was out of a job for ten minutes.

And I never once said Callahan wouldn't have a job next year, in fact I said the opposite. I think he'll make a fine NFL OC - I think it's the job he's most suited for, as is his style of coaching, and I think he'll be pretty successful at it in the right situation.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Houston Nutt quit and wasn't fired. Not the same thing. Also as shady as that dude is he probably already knew he had another job before he quit.

Why doesn't Lou Holtz ever get mentioned he won a NC and wasn't he fired from SC or did he quit? I don't remember.

 

[DJR313]

With all of the openings out there for HC, I'd be interested in knowing why the "Callahan should have more time" people think he's not even being mentioned in talks for these programs.

If he was such a good coach that WE should keep him, doesn't it stand to reason that his name would be mentioned in some other search as even a minor candidate?

Just goes to show you that people can be a fan without knowing football. There's nothing wrong with that, unless people let their opinion and their mouth get in front of their better judgment.

Solich had to wait a whole year for his next gig and that was at lowly Ohio. The offense Callahan wants to install wherever he goes will take at least a 3 year commitment and I don't think that many colleges want to wait that long for the dividends. The schools that would give him a shot also will not be able to draw the recruits like Nebraska. Incredibly brilliant offensive mind, but not the best fit as a college head coach.

On the other hand, the argument that "no one wants him" could be used for Pelini as well. LSU wants to ditch him as DC and 4 years later he has been continually passed over for HC positions. What does that say about him? Solich was 58-19 at Nebraska and his best offer was Ohio. What does that say about him? You can play that game all day long.