Releasing Players from the Team

[junior4949]

It's difficult to make a judgment about whether Bo is being too strict when we don't even know what Castille did. How can we know whether the punishment was proportional to the violation?

That said, whatever Castille was doing, it at least sounds like he had some warning and a chance to correct it, in which case, if he didn't, I think dismissal would be appropriate.

:yeah

Without knowing what Castille or Glenn did, how can we know whether or not Bo was too strict? It's like asking a judge to hand down a sentence when he doesn't even know what the crime committed was. If it was drugs like what was posted last week and Castille flunked 5 times, how much rope can we hand the kid? Considering how things have been handled in the past, I'm guessing we will never know what really happened.

 

[HuskerMack]

It's difficult to make a judgment about whether Bo is being too strict when we don't even know what Castille did. How can we know whether the punishment was proportional to the violation?

That said, whatever Castille was doing, it at least sounds like he had some warning and a chance to correct it, in which case, if he didn't, I think dismissal would be appropriate.

Doesnt Matter what you think is fair or not you do not run the program!!!!!!!!

Just because this is football doesnt mean there are no rules if you don't want to follow the rules you will have to pay the price. He might not have gotten any warnings or multiple warnings I dont care, he didnt follow the rules and he got booted so be it. These kids are getting a full ride to play ball and follow some simple rules Ohhhh that is really hard. My Highschool baseball coach kicked kids off the team because he saw a picture of the kids with a beer in there hands over the summer. Coach said it is his rules or the highway its up to you if you want to follow the rules are not. Have to remember its a not a right to get to play its a priviledge.

 

[missouri_husker24]

I am on the bandwagon with people who are fed up with posters who question Bo's views and rights as a head coach. The guy doesn't take bs. Not from a starter or from a walk-on senior who might be in a few special teams plays during the beginning of the season.

This is what i view some of you are thinking....

1. we loved him as a Defensive Coordinator

2. we liked that he got the nod for Head Coach

3. we questioned his judgment on Glenns suspension/ of the subject

4. we loved that he posted a 9-4 record after a horrid season before

5. we are now questioning his views on ethics this, morality that

BOTTOM LINE!!!!! is, the guy turned our beloved team from a 5-7 shame to a 9-4 team with big aspirations for this year, with or without Q.

So lets just calm down with all the "Bo better recruit betterfasternow" talk. The man was offered a job by T.O., he came into work and he did is job. Plain and simple. If Bo dismissed a player then in my opinion they deserved it.

Cliff Notes:

-BO-KNOWS just like he did last year

-The sky isn't falling

-Let's play some freaking ball

-GO BIG RED

 

[Vince from ShamWOW]

I am on the bandwagon with people who are fed up with posters who question Bo's views and rights as a head coach. The guy doesn't take bs. Not from a starter or from a walk-on senior who might be in a few special teams plays during the beginning of the season.

This is what i view some of you are thinking....

1. we loved him as a Defensive Coordinator

2. we liked that he got the nod for Head Coach

3. we questioned his judgment on Glenns suspension/ of the subject

4. we loved that he posted a 9-4 record after a horrid season before

5. we are now questioning his views on ethics this, morality that

BOTTOM LINE!!!!! is, the guy turned our beloved team from a 5-7 shame to a 9-4 team with big aspirations for this year, with or without Q.

So lets just calm down with all the "Bo better recruit betterfasternow" talk. The man was offered a job by T.O., he came into work and he did is job. Plain and simple. If Bo dismissed a player then in my opinion they deserved it.

Cliff Notes:

-BO-KNOWS just like he did last year

-The sky isn't falling

-Let's play some freaking ball

-GO BIG RED

Nice post

 

[skerfan1705]

Let me tell you right off the bat that I am not against what BO did with "Q". I am glad that we have a coach that has the guts to put the team, the school, and the rules before a "winning at all cost" mentality...I was simply looking for everyone elses' opinion on the matter. Just starting discussion.

I am as grateful as anyone that BO is here doing what he is doing.

 

[DCHusker]

It's difficult to make a judgment about whether Bo is being too strict when we don't even know what Castille did. How can we know whether the punishment was proportional to the violation?

That said, whatever Castille was doing, it at least sounds like he had some warning and a chance to correct it, in which case, if he didn't, I think dismissal would be appropriate.

Doesnt Matter what you think is fair or not you do not run the program!!!!!!!!

Just because this is football doesnt mean there are no rules if you don't want to follow the rules you will have to pay the price. He might not have gotten any warnings or multiple warnings I dont care, he didnt follow the rules and he got booted so be it. These kids are getting a full ride to play ball and follow some simple rules Ohhhh that is really hard. My Highschool baseball coach kicked kids off the team because he saw a picture of the kids with a beer in there hands over the summer. Coach said it is his rules or the highway its up to you if you want to follow the rules are not. Have to remember its a not a right to get to play its a priviledge.

You're stating the obvious. Of course it doesn't matter to the program whether any of us think it was fair or not. Doesn't mean it's not worth discussing.

Like I said, what we know is that he broke the rules, was warned, and continued to break the rules=dismissal

 

[Hunter94]

No he holds his players to a certain expectation and they know that. Plus he won't let one player be above the team. When Cody Glenn was gone could you tell that if affected the team? No because Bo wouldn't let it just like he won't let Castille distract anyone.

exactly, the rules are the rules and everyone knows it...so there should never be an excuse. without enforcement of the rules, there are no rules.

 

[Silent Commit]

I'll add my .02...

Releasing players from the team is a vital and necessary option for a head coach.

These players are kids and if a coach allows these kids free reign a program can degenerate into "The Lord of the Flies" rather quickly. No player, whether he's a scrub, walk-on, a 5 :star stud or anything in between is above the rules. And, the fastest way for a coach to lose control over the team is the give preferential treatment to star players.

I totally agree with your .02. Makes me wonder what Brad Childress was thinking when he gave Brett Favre preferential treatment to skip training camp. You think AD is thinking "Hey, I'm an elite player...I should be able to skip training camp, too". The point is, you have to set limits, or, as you said, a coach will lose control of the team.

On the other hand, I think Bo genuinely cares about his players. He won't hang a player out to dry without good cause. GO BO! GO HUSKERS!

 

[lilred]

:wacko:

Ok, all this arguing is starting to make my head spin.

It's difficult to make a judgment about whether Bo is being too strict when we don't even know what Castille did. How can we know whether the punishment was proportional to the violation?

That said, whatever Castille was doing, it at least sounds like he had some warning and a chance to correct it, in which case, if he didn't, I think dismissal would be appropriate.

Doesnt Matter what you think is fair or not you do not run the program!!!!!!!!

Just because this is football doesnt mean there are no rules if you don't want to follow the rules you will have to pay the price. He might not have gotten any warnings or multiple warnings I dont care, he didnt follow the rules and he got booted so be it. These kids are getting a full ride to play ball and follow some simple rules Ohhhh that is really hard. My Highschool baseball coach kicked kids off the team because he saw a picture of the kids with a beer in there hands over the summer. Coach said it is his rules or the highway its up to you if you want to follow the rules are not. Have to remember its a not a right to get to play its a priviledge.

I'm sorry but this right here just strikes me as ignorant. A LOT of posts are looking exactly like this. Did you even read what he said? He didn't say it "wasn't fair", or even that it wasn't the correct action. All he said was that we do NOT know what Quentin did, therefore we CANNOT say evaluate the punishment. Now I'M SURE Bo kicked him off the team for a good reason, but the fact is, we cannot actually say, and Q was one of our top players, so it's obviously a hot issue. This is nothing personal, but posts like these just make people look insane!!! Once the ball gets rolling with a popular idea, it just gets spewed madly and without discretion. Be reasonable!

I am on the bandwagon with people who are fed up with posters who question Bo's views and rights as a head coach. The guy doesn't take bs. Not from a starter or from a walk-on senior who might be in a few special teams plays during the beginning of the season.

This is what i view some of you are thinking....

1. we loved him as a Defensive Coordinator

2. we liked that he got the nod for Head Coach

3. we questioned his judgment on Glenns suspension/ of the subject

4. we loved that he posted a 9-4 record after a horrid season before

5. we are now questioning his views on ethics this, morality that

BOTTOM LINE!!!!! is, the guy turned our beloved team from a 5-7 shame to a 9-4 team with big aspirations for this year, with or without Q.

So lets just calm down with all the "Bo better recruit betterfasternow" talk. The man was offered a job by T.O., he came into work and he did is job. Plain and simple. If Bo dismissed a player then in my opinion they deserved it.

Cliff Notes:

-BO-KNOWS just like he did last year

-The sky isn't falling

-Let's play some freaking ball

-GO BIG RED

Again, this just confuses me. I haven't seen a single person who has said Bo flat-out made the wrong decision. I'm sorry, but you guys are inventing that. I agree more or less with what you are saying, but since the dust settled, there haven't been people saying Bo is making wrong decisions, if there have been a few (and I haven't seen any), it's being blow WAY WAY out of proportion.

The one thing that does bother me is that people are being crucified for "questioning" Bo's decisions. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that! That is why this board exists. It's starting to sound like 1984 in here...

The bottom line is, we don't know what Quentin did. Therefore, how can we know if the penalty is just? (SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION, PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE NEXT SENTENCE) I for one trust Bo that it was the right move, I don't think he would have kicked off one of our top offensive players for something small.

:restore :restore :restore

 

[lilred]

Quentin had this to say on facebook (YES, facebook, I know, I wouldn't ordinarily post this, but it's very relevant and I know most will be interested to see this):

LOL people are funny these days. Trust i got a plan im a man. On G-O-D if u a hater now then u gon always be one but look at it this way dont hate me for the decisions i made to start a new life. Bounce back? Is that what they call it these days man ...i feel im taking another step forward think what u want......i really dont care. BEAST MODE 2009

I wouldn't be suprised if someone put this up or has seen it, but that's from the man himself.

 

[admo]

I dont think Pelini is pulling the trigger to quick. I give some thought and would have to guess that he'll gather up facts and have a talk or two with a player. Like a verbal. Give him a chance to get his act together. If a player still cannot do what he's asked to do and follow the rules, then a decision is made as harsh as it sometimes is.

 

[NoKoolAidForME]

I personally have no problem with what Bo did with Q. We are not in the locker room and regardless to how much people think they know about the goings on in NU Football they don't. I read peoples post with there "sources" and it makes me laugh.

The only thing I want to see from Bo is consistency with his discipline. No one knows definitively how many chances Q had. But I do know a player was allowed back after "resisting arrest and criminal mischief" and a player that received a punishment of miss the last week of spring practices and the spring game for a DUI on a suspended license.

 

[motorboatjonesNU]

The only thing I want to see from Bo is consistency with his discipline. No one knows definitively how many chances Q had. But I do know a player was allowed back after "resisting arrest and criminal mischief" and a player that received a punishment of miss the last week of spring practices and the spring game for a DUI on a suspended license.

But we also DON'T know exactly what Q did - and that may be by design. Not all infractions may be qualified as public information: i.e: failed drug tests (medical privacy), selling game tickets (violation of NCAA regs), etc. , and it may behoove the university to not disclose anything it doesn't have to.

You can bet that each player is more than likely going to get a fair shake under Oz/Bo.

 

[knapplc]

I personally have no problem with what Bo did with Q. We are not in the locker room and regardless to how much people think they know about the goings on in NU Football they don't. I read peoples post with there "sources" and it makes me laugh.
The only thing I want to see from Bo is consistency with his discipline. No one knows definitively how many chances Q had. But I do know a player was allowed back after "resisting arrest and criminal mischief" and a player that received a punishment of miss the last week of spring practices and the spring game for a DUI on a suspended license.

Agreed. I, also, have no problem with cutting someone who doesn't follow established rules. But from the outside looking in, it seems like there's a possibility that a guy like Teafatiller got a different set of chances than Glenn or Castille. AC's situation comes to mind as well.

The benefit of the doubt goes to Bo in a HUGE way for me. I am nowhere near that locker and I have zero idea what Glenn or Castille did. Everything I've heard from Bo so far makes me think he's straightforward and fair with these guys. I'm not doubting that.

 

[jjamuss]

dedhoarse

Pelini dropping two major contributors from the team in two years (Glenn and Castille) we think that it is great because we have a NO NONSENSE coach that won't back down on the rules that he set forth when he took over the program....

Three major contributors if you include Witt. (Remember, we only heard one side of that story). If Bo is going to keep running players off he had better pick up the pace in recruiting.

The thing that strikes me is that they are all BC's boys... I wonder if there was unrest inside the team that Bo will not tolerate that stemmed from the BC era? Remember, we are only one season removed and it will be another 3 years before Bo has just Bo's Boys playing for Nebraska.

Witt made it clear, he wanted a starter named or he quit... sounds like the primadonna BC would recruit, Freeman and Gabbert proved that. Glenn kept his mouth shut for whatever reason and so has Q so far.

I respect what Bo felt he had to do... but I wonder how much ego is involved.

dedhoarse