Rewatch the game

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Travis9

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Then make judgements.

All over the place people are calling for Major over Asante. Yes, Asante got hurt went back in and got burnt. Happens.

Rewatch the game, and watch the containment and execution of stopping the run in the first half and compare it to the second half. The first half (with Asante) we contained Taylor, we stopped the run pretty well. the second half was a whole different story(with Major). Major was out of position play after play, he lost containment several times allowing Taylor outside, they didnt throw much so we dont know how he would have done in pass coverage, but the 3 times I have watched the game, i get the same results. We were much better defensively with Asante over Major. i have no dog in the hunt so to speak so i just want the best to play, and from my observations (watching the film) Asante was way way way better than Major.

the one we need to be complaining about is O'hanlon. are you fricking kidding me. he tackles noone, he just dives at their feet. there was one play where taylor got wide down the sideline. Ohanlon gave chase with an angle and got passed by our LB who had to make the play. oh yeah, ohanlon was chasing him in a horsehoe pattern meaning he ran blindly to the line the did a uturn and gave chase, however RT was in for one series in which he made every play including 2 huge hits and we never saw him again.

Asante is far from the problem, in fact, our defense was much worse in the second half with Major in regards to their responsibilities.

ohanlon = nice story but need playmakers i.e. RT

 
Stopping the run starts with the front four. VT got better with the run in the second half due to the lack of depth on the defensive front and the starters getting very little, if any rest. I wouldn't attribute the success against the run in the 1st half to Asante and the lack of success against the run in the second half to Major. It starts up front. Then there is another level to go through before you get to Asante and Major.

 
Ummm...well, I'm not putting it all on Asante. We don't have any safeties in general. I think there needs to be an reevaluation in that position. Maybe move some people around or something but it is quite obvious that Nebraska does not have the players they need in the safety position right now.

 
Dan_F_30 said:
Stopping the run starts with the front four. VT got better with the run in the second half due to the lack of depth on the defensive front and the starters getting very little, if any rest. I wouldn't attribute the success against the run in the 1st half to Asante and the lack of success against the run in the second half to Major. It starts up front. Then there is another level to go through before you get to Asante and Major.
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you are correct here as well, but watch the film, asante saw the play and went where he needed to be, shed blockers and made plays against the run game. Major didnt, he collapsed inside, or tried to follow the play down the line leaving gaping holes in the open field back to the strong side. remember the SS is more of a run stopper than pass defender in a lot of cases. Major created huge problems by not shedding blocks or being out of positionn. yes the dline was wore down, but that makes being in the right spots and making the right reads that much more essential.

Also, outside of Glenn watch the LB Wortman was really bad and Dillard not really far behind. one thing that will help this D is if our MLB will step up and be a playmaker which is not happening

 
How about neither Asante and Major are any good. I saw Asante missing tackles as well. I'm not here to defend either of them and Wortman is just not capable of playing at this level but everyone knew the LB's would be weak.

 
a few more observations from my viewing.

1. play calling bad. first series lucky gets 8 yards on 2 carries and 3rd and 2 we thrown some stupid tricky screen. what happened to the "establish the run" theme. was bad all night. it really wasnt that we couldnt run, WE NEVER FRICKING TRIED.

2. QB play was really bad. bad decisions, lack of progression. Joe looked at the primary and then tucked the ball all night. several times he could have stepped up in the pocket and delivered the ball the the 2nd or 3rd WR but never tried just tucked it and ran. when he did throw the ball it was late or very poorly thrown. now before you go quoting stats to me understand almost half his yards came against a soft zone in the 4th quarter. however, in the money times, he was really bad

3. o-line, smith and huff were awful. smith may be athletic as hell but he is getting owned and this is not the first game, huff the same. when you have 2 lineman getting owned on the same side it equal bad news.

contrary to popular opinion, vtech did not stack the box like we expected. we abandoned the run completely and they got to the qb over the left side with a 4 man rush a ton. 3 i-backs and a combined 15 carries, you tell me where we tried to run.

 
Travis9 said:
Dan_F_30 said:
Stopping the run starts with the front four. VT got better with the run in the second half due to the lack of depth on the defensive front and the starters getting very little, if any rest. I wouldn't attribute the success against the run in the 1st half to Asante and the lack of success against the run in the second half to Major. It starts up front. Then there is another level to go through before you get to Asante and Major.
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you are correct here as well, but watch the film, asante saw the play and went where he needed to be, shed blockers and made plays against the run game. Major didnt, he collapsed inside, or tried to follow the play down the line leaving gaping holes in the open field back to the strong side. remember the SS is more of a run stopper than pass defender in a lot of cases. Major created huge problems by not shedding blocks or being out of positionn. yes the dline was wore down, but that makes being in the right spots and making the right reads that much more essential.

Also, outside of Glenn watch the LB Wortman was really bad and Dillard not really far behind. one thing that will help this D is if our MLB will step up and be a playmaker which is not happening
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That could very well be the case, but the best of the worst then is still Asante

 
BigRedPowerWagon said:
You know rewatching that video shu was way outaline and bo shoulda held his composure.
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suh was out of line, the first was a late hit, the second frustration. doesnt make either right

i still think pelini got the flag not for what was said but because he was out of the box

 
I saw Pelini 10 yards away from teh referee and when Pelini yelled a little more at that referee the flag came. I'm pretty sure it was for what he said. He must have called him a c*ck S@#ker.

 
Travis9 said:
a few more observations from my viewing.

1. play calling bad. first series lucky gets 8 yards on 2 carries and 3rd and 2 we thrown some stupid tricky screen. what happened to the "establish the run" theme. was bad all night. it really wasnt that we couldnt run, WE NEVER FRICKING TRIED.

2. QB play was really bad. bad decisions, lack of progression. Joe looked at the primary and then tucked the ball all night. several times he could have stepped up in the pocket and delivered the ball the the 2nd or 3rd WR but never tried just tucked it and ran. when he did throw the ball it was late or very poorly thrown. now before you go quoting stats to me understand almost half his yards came against a soft zone in the 4th quarter. however, in the money times, he was really bad

3. o-line, smith and huff were awful. smith may be athletic as hell but he is getting owned and this is not the first game, huff the same. when you have 2 lineman getting owned on the same side it equal bad news.

contrary to popular opinion, vtech did not stack the box like we expected. we abandoned the run completely and they got to the qb over the left side with a 4 man rush a ton. 3 i-backs and a combined 15 carries, you tell me where we tried to run.
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totally agree. my biggest complaint so far with coaching is this very thing and failure to get lucky involved in the O outside of just running the ball. when we have played really good teams it seems like lucky is the only one who can still make big plays... and its normally not on straight runs.

 
The entire secondary (Assante, Culbert, O'Hanlon, Murillo, Amukamara, West, Hagg, Blue).. all young guys. It tends to show at times throughout every game. I wont say they are bad players, because I don't think they are. I just would like to see them play better than what I've seen. I think they are capable, or.. giving them the benefit of the doubt. Because each one has made some good plays (this season or last season).

There seems to be someone on the field that is giving up too much space. And the QB always finds that particular reciever.

But if the coverage is pretty tight, these guys do tend to make a good play. At least I have seen that more often than not.

Someone - was it newearthusker? said something in a thread questioning 'how difficult is this defensive scheme' or something to that effect and it struck a chord. I'm starting to wonder myself. After each game coach mentions "assignment blown or didnt execute". So maybe these cats need more time before they get it? I dont know but it's interesting. :dunno

 
Dan_F_30 said:
I saw Pelini 10 yards away from teh referee and when Pelini yelled a little more at that referee the flag came. I'm pretty sure it was for what he said. He must have called him a c*ck S@#ker.
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From the news video, the words looked more like "where the fvck did you learn to ref?"

 
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