Thanks_Tom RR
New member
He was told not to post about his suspension outside of the Woodshed, and he did it anyway. I vote either another suspension or a mod review.
Ric Flair
- Thread starter Enhance
- Start date
Enhance
Administrator
I don't know what to do with this guy. I suspended Ric for 45 days in late June for his third warning in less than a year. The offense that earned him his third warning was telling another board member to 'Grow up, snowflake.'
His first post upon returning was this:
I don't think bitching about suspensions is necessarily a bannable offense, but his woe is me attitude and consistent campaigns to justify his ridiculousness is tiresome.
His first post upon returning was this:
I don't think bitching about suspensions is necessarily a bannable offense, but his woe is me attitude and consistent campaigns to justify his ridiculousness is tiresome.
Thanks_Tom RR
New member
I read through the thread. He had 45 days to get clarification about his suspension. He has clearly made the assumption that his suspension was based on his political views and is running with it (despite your affirmation in opposition to this).
If he wants to act like a public martyr, I think the best strategy would be to response by clearly explaining the reason for his suspension and alleviating any concern that it was due to political views. I would also say some members are choosing to get a little chippy with him, nothing individually egregious, but I am concerned there is a bit of a mob mentality in that particular thread.
We probably need to keep an eye on the situation directed at both sides.
If he wants to act like a public martyr, I think the best strategy would be to response by clearly explaining the reason for his suspension and alleviating any concern that it was due to political views. I would also say some members are choosing to get a little chippy with him, nothing individually egregious, but I am concerned there is a bit of a mob mentality in that particular thread.
We probably need to keep an eye on the situation directed at both sides.
Last edited by a moderator:
Enhance
Administrator
Well said, @Thanks_Tom RR.
Ric and I had some lengthy back and forths through PM this weekend. I think he understands now because he did not respond to my most recent message on Saturday.
He initially tried to defend himself by saying other people call Trump supporters 'racists/Nazis/etc.' all the time and so he doesn't understand how what he said was inflammatory. I reaffirmed his suspension by explaining a) other people using derogatory language does not give him the right to do so b) he still tried to provoke somebody into a fight by using potentially derogatory language and c) he needs to use the Report button if he feels like someone is violating a board rule. To his credit, he did use the Report button this weekend when knapplc went a little too far and I addressed it.
Ultimately, I think Ric does have a bit of a point - it's very common for a core group of people here to go after Trump supporters. As such, I try to be fair in the adjudication but it's been very hard to convince him that his behavior, not his political opinions, are the source of his problems.
Ric and I had some lengthy back and forths through PM this weekend. I think he understands now because he did not respond to my most recent message on Saturday.
He initially tried to defend himself by saying other people call Trump supporters 'racists/Nazis/etc.' all the time and so he doesn't understand how what he said was inflammatory. I reaffirmed his suspension by explaining a) other people using derogatory language does not give him the right to do so b) he still tried to provoke somebody into a fight by using potentially derogatory language and c) he needs to use the Report button if he feels like someone is violating a board rule. To his credit, he did use the Report button this weekend when knapplc went a little too far and I addressed it.
Ultimately, I think Ric does have a bit of a point - it's very common for a core group of people here to go after Trump supporters. As such, I try to be fair in the adjudication but it's been very hard to convince him that his behavior, not his political opinions, are the source of his problems.
Enhance
Administrator
I'm going to start dropping some notes in this thread about Ric's behavior... choices he's making that aren't directly a violation of board rules but nonetheless inappropriate. This is mainly for my own tracking purposes.
----------
Today, Ric took the Omarosa Chronicles thread in P&R off track when he began continually complaining about his previous suspensions. I moved approximately 15 posts to the Woodshed's tangent thread (not all of them were his). Anecdotally speaking, this is not the first time he's tried to start arguments with other posters since returning from his most recent suspension. He is trying to play the victim and convince others that he's being punished for being a conservative.
----------
Today, Ric took the Omarosa Chronicles thread in P&R off track when he began continually complaining about his previous suspensions. I moved approximately 15 posts to the Woodshed's tangent thread (not all of them were his). Anecdotally speaking, this is not the first time he's tried to start arguments with other posters since returning from his most recent suspension. He is trying to play the victim and convince others that he's being punished for being a conservative.
Last edited by a moderator:
Enhance
Administrator
Enhance
Administrator
Enhance
Administrator
Strangely enough, I think knapplc might be onto something by claiming @Archy1221 is @Ric Flair.
Unfortunately, I don't see a lot of hard evidence for it. I did a brief IP/email search and there are a lot of disrepancies. The only thing I found is anecdotal. It's suspiciously anecdotal, but anecdotal nonetheless.
Similar posting habits/sentence structure. This is just one example I readily found. Posters don't often mention somebody's user name when responding to them.
IMO I'm not overly interested to be on a witch hunt at the moment, but I could be convinced otherwise. knapplc constantly claims people are socks for previously banned members (particularly if they disagreed with him in P&R). It's also genuinely amazing just how much space some of these people take up in knapplc's head. I rarely pick up on a sock account just by posting behavior alone...
Unfortunately, I don't see a lot of hard evidence for it. I did a brief IP/email search and there are a lot of disrepancies. The only thing I found is anecdotal. It's suspiciously anecdotal, but anecdotal nonetheless.
Similar posting habits/sentence structure. This is just one example I readily found. Posters don't often mention somebody's user name when responding to them.
Not at all Harry. Did it hurt yours?
I can’t figure out the point in going after a politicians kids when he is angry with the politician. Get pissed all you want with the actions of elected officials. But leave it there.
I guess you feel otherwise and think that families are ok to go after. Sad.
IMO I'm not overly interested to be on a witch hunt at the moment, but I could be convinced otherwise. knapplc constantly claims people are socks for previously banned members (particularly if they disagreed with him in P&R). It's also genuinely amazing just how much space some of these people take up in knapplc's head. I rarely pick up on a sock account just by posting behavior alone...
Last edited by a moderator:
Enhance
Administrator
I'm hopeful @The Whale will stay true to their word and never post here again, but regardless...
I did a little IP digging and noticed one major IP crossover with the poster Ric Flair from a few years ago that we banned. I don't see any other hard evidence at the moment, but circumstantially, I looked back and notice that Ric was a bit of an abrasive conversationalist. Swore frequently. Made a lot of loud, bold claims. Not too unlike our friend The Whale here.
If we can prove it, I think it'd be worth an insta-ban. The Whale has made no real effort to be a positive community member here.
I did a little IP digging and noticed one major IP crossover with the poster Ric Flair from a few years ago that we banned. I don't see any other hard evidence at the moment, but circumstantially, I looked back and notice that Ric was a bit of an abrasive conversationalist. Swore frequently. Made a lot of loud, bold claims. Not too unlike our friend The Whale here.
If we can prove it, I think it'd be worth an insta-ban. The Whale has made no real effort to be a positive community member here.
Last edited by a moderator: