Rivals: Dream Team of Assistant coaches...

[strigori]

Developing one good QB in five years makes him good? And he wasn't on board for Ganz' early years in the program.

 

[The Dude]

I don't know what is up with your guys' knee-jerk reaction, Shawn Watson is a fantastic assistant (read, position) coach.

Is he?

 

[NUance]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

 

[Saunders]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

 

[RedDenver]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

Ganz and a few pretty good guys at CU come to mind. Nothing earth-shattering but sport writers and other coaches seem to like Watson's work.

 

[husker_hurdler]

I can see it......maybe not "Dream Team" worthy, but as a position coach, yea. A lot of people are really high on him, not to mention several highly rated recruits over the years. He just might not be O-Cord material.

Husker fans need to take the bias out of their argument.

Don't get me wrong.....I am still suprised he made the list.

 

[Landlord]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

Ganz and a few pretty good guys at CU come to mind. Nothing earth-shattering but sport writers and other coaches seem to like Watson's work.

Not to mention the progress of Cody and Taylor. They're not finished products, nor great quarterbacks, but have made incredible strides from when they come in. Great college quarterbacks usually come in pretty damn good, and leave great with only a marginal amount of true development. Cody Green and Taylor Martinez came in really freaking lousy (in the passing department), and are in the process of/really close to being pretty decent. In my opinion.

 

[Whistlebritches]

I have a hard time overlooking Taylor's meltdown in the CCG with OU when thinking about Watson being a great position coach. You HAVE to teach the kid that it's alright to occasionally throw the ball away. TM took several unnecessary sacks in the second half of the game when he had plenty of time to get rid of the ball. It pushed us out of field goal and cost us points. Yeah, TM was/is young, but I see this as a coaching letdown moreso than poor decision making.

 

[Saunders]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

Ganz and a few pretty good guys at CU come to mind. Nothing earth-shattering but sport writers and other coaches seem to like Watson's work.

Not to mention the progress of Cody and Taylor. They're not finished products, nor great quarterbacks, but have made incredible strides from when they come in. Great college quarterbacks usually come in pretty damn good, and leave great with only a marginal amount of true development. Cody Green and Taylor Martinez came in really freaking lousy (in the passing department), and are in the process of/really close to being pretty decent. In my opinion.

Ganz was developed by Norvell and Callahan. Watson only used a near finished product. Cody, IMO, looks no better than day 1. He still throws the ball in the dirt, stares down receivers, and throws off his back foot. Taylor peaked during the Okie state game. Sure his injury had a large part, but standing in the pocket for 7 seconds before taking a sack is on his QB coach.

 

[GMoose]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

Ganz and a few pretty good guys at CU come to mind. Nothing earth-shattering but sport writers and other coaches seem to like Watson's work.

Not to mention the progress of Cody and Taylor. They're not finished products, nor great quarterbacks, but have made incredible strides from when they come in. Great college quarterbacks usually come in pretty damn good, and leave great with only a marginal amount of true development. Cody Green and Taylor Martinez came in really freaking lousy (in the passing department), and are in the process of/really close to being pretty decent. In my opinion.

Ganz was developed by Norvell and Callahan. Watson only used a near finished product. Cody, IMO, looks no better than day 1. He still throws the ball in the dirt, stares down receivers, and throws off his back foot. Taylor peaked during the Okie state game. Sure his injury had a large part, but standing in the pocket for 7 seconds before taking a sack is on his QB coach.

You mean peaked for the season right?

 

[Saunders]

The thing is, NU fans——myself included——have a pretty big bias when it comes to Wats. Look at the rest of the names on that list. Some pretty good guys named there. So Wats might not turn out as bad at QB position coach as most NU fans think. Only time will tell.

Who has he developed?

Ganz and a few pretty good guys at CU come to mind. Nothing earth-shattering but sport writers and other coaches seem to like Watson's work.

Not to mention the progress of Cody and Taylor. They're not finished products, nor great quarterbacks, but have made incredible strides from when they come in. Great college quarterbacks usually come in pretty damn good, and leave great with only a marginal amount of true development. Cody Green and Taylor Martinez came in really freaking lousy (in the passing department), and are in the process of/really close to being pretty decent. In my opinion.

Ganz was developed by Norvell and Callahan. Watson only used a near finished product. Cody, IMO, looks no better than day 1. He still throws the ball in the dirt, stares down receivers, and throws off his back foot. Taylor peaked during the Okie state game. Sure his injury had a large part, but standing in the pocket for 7 seconds before taking a sack is on his QB coach.

You mean peaked for the season right?

Yeah. Sorry, I should have clarified. He hit his highpoint for the season. He played a great game (against a not-so-great defense), and tanked (injury helped) afterwards.

 

[zoogs]

The notion that Ganz was a near finished product before his junior season is an interesting one.

Actually I think Ganz in his final two years was when he made a transformation and really started making a lot of strides. Of course that likely isn't possibly without the first three, but anyway, just for what that's worth.

 

[Saunders]

The notion that Ganz was a near finished product before his junior season is an interesting one.

Actually I think Ganz in his final two years was when he made a transformation and really started making a lot of strides. Of course that likely isn't possibly without the first three, but anyway, just for what that's worth.

I mean that Ganz was groomed as much as possible without actual game experience. Obviously Ganz gained game experience in '07, but there were many "insiders" who thought that he should start over Keller in '07. Of course, since BC had promised the job to Sam, Ganz was stuck on the bench. Only after Sam's injury did we see what Joe could do. I've heard that he had a fantastic appreciation for detail, and knew the playbook inside and out. All the little nuggets of info pointed to Joe being a "coach on the field" type of player.

That's why, in my opinion, Watson had little to do with developing Joe.