Sam Keller's lawsuit against EA/NCAA

[Savage Husker]

How is this different than Barry Bonds who wasn't a part of the MLBPA so the baseball video games didn't use his name? I don't know, I guess I'm curious if there is a correlation.

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Well, if you don't mind the fact that Xbox One owners will be able to play NCAA 14 starting this fall (with the announcement of reverse compatibility update coming out for XB1) users will just make the rosters current for every year.

If that bothers you and you want a new game every year, you're crazy. The '14 model was the best they put out and I thought the game play was absolutely phenomenal.

There is no guarantee that NCAA 14 will be backwards compatible. Backwards compatibility is something that has to approved by the developers and I'm not betting on EA--especially in light of the recent rulings--will be comfortable opening a can of worms by making the game playable on XB1.

 

[huKSer]

Well, if you don't mind the fact that Xbox One owners will be able to play NCAA 14 starting this fall (with the announcement of reverse compatibility update coming out for XB1) users will just make the rosters current for every year.

If that bothers you and you want a new game every year, you're crazy. The '14 model was the best they put out and I thought the game play was absolutely phenomenal.

'97 was the best - you could make it rain at Syracuse or snow at Hawai'i

 

[Elf]

Electronic Arts has settled with the plaintiffs of the Keller suit for $40 million in damages, paying money it owed college athletes for illegally using their likenesses in its college football and basketball video games. However, O'Bannon lawsuit plaintiffs claim in a recent court filing that they will present at trial evidence that EA wanted to pay the players, even though the NCAA wouldn't allow it, due to its amateurism rules.

The (plaintiffs) will present documentary evidence and testimony from Joel Linzner of EA at trial that while EA abided by the prohibition on paying college athletes for the use of their (likeness) in NCAA-lisenced videogames, it nonetheless wanted to obtain the rights for more precise likenesses and the names of every college athlete on each roster, for which EA was willing to pay more to the NCAA and the college athletes themselves.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/4/5779102/ea-sports-ncaa-lawsuit-pay-players

This was all said after they killed the game series and EA has absolutely no credibility here. It's a PR spin to make themselves look good in the consumer's eye. It all could have been avoided with a randomly generated roster and they knew that. EA is to blame for the game being killed off. They used player likenesses without permission (Likeness != name). All there is to it.

And before people defend EA, let's take a look at they've done to these companies: Maxis, Mythic, Origin, Westwood, Dreamworks Interactive, Phenomic, Black Box Games, Pandemic, Playfish, and NuFX. EA is not a company that gets to claim moral high ground on anything.

Also let's remember what they did with the NCAA football series:

- Inaccurate gameplay

- Jersey microtransactions

- Pulled features out of previous gen games to introduce as new features in next gen platforms. Essentially never really updating the game.

- Terrible patching service.

- Yearly release schedule led to incomplete/glitchy games.

- Horrible physics engine.

You left out Gamestorm and all the Jane's Combat Sims. Probably some others as well.

When EA bought out Gamestorm they made all kinds of promises to the player base, they didn't keep a single promise. Several months after buying Gamestorm, they shut down all the games. I've never bought another EA game since.

 

[zoogs]

RIP Jane's Combat Sims. Those were the days.

 

[Redux]

My suggestion:

Keep the attribute assingments to each player, but randomize the names and swap ethnicities.

Can't claim likeness if they made Nate Gerry, I mean Justin Jackson, black.

They don't use names, anywhere. It's "HB #8" or something like that for each guy.

Right, but assinging random names would further the anti likeness

 

[Sargon]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

 

[shyndy]

Electronic Arts has settled with the plaintiffs of the Keller suit for $40 million in damages, paying money it owed college athletes for illegally using their likenesses in its college football and basketball video games. However, O'Bannon lawsuit plaintiffs claim in a recent court filing that they will present at trial evidence that EA wanted to pay the players, even though the NCAA wouldn't allow it, due to its amateurism rules.

The (plaintiffs) will present documentary evidence and testimony from Joel Linzner of EA at trial that while EA abided by the prohibition on paying college athletes for the use of their (likeness) in NCAA-lisenced videogames, it nonetheless wanted to obtain the rights for more precise likenesses and the names of every college athlete on each roster, for which EA was willing to pay more to the NCAA and the college athletes themselves.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/4/5779102/ea-sports-ncaa-lawsuit-pay-players

This was all said after they killed the game series and EA has absolutely no credibility here. It's a PR spin to make themselves look good in the consumer's eye. It all could have been avoided with a randomly generated roster and they knew that. EA is to blame for the game being killed off. They used player likenesses without permission (Likeness != name). All there is to it.

And before people defend EA, let's take a look at they've done to these companies: Maxis, Mythic, Origin, Westwood, Dreamworks Interactive, Phenomic, Black Box Games, Pandemic, Playfish, and NuFX. EA is not a company that gets to claim moral high ground on anything.

Also let's remember what they did with the NCAA football series:

- Inaccurate gameplay

- Jersey microtransactions

- Pulled features out of previous gen games to introduce as new features in next gen platforms. Essentially never really updating the game.

- Terrible patching service.

- Yearly release schedule led to incomplete/glitchy games.

- Horrible physics engine.

You left out Gamestorm and all the Jane's Combat Sims. Probably some others as well.

When EA bought out Gamestorm they made all kinds of promises to the player base, they didn't keep a single promise. Several months after buying Gamestorm, they shut down all the games. I've never bought another EA game since.

I'd add Bioware to that graveyard except they seem to have rebounded a bit

 

[Saunders]

My suggestion:

Keep the attribute assingments to each player, but randomize the names and swap ethnicities.

Can't claim likeness if they made Nate Gerry, I mean Justin Jackson, black.

They don't use names, anywhere. It's "HB #8" or something like that for each guy.

Right, but assinging random names would further the anti likeness

When you start a season, it asks you if you want to use position/number or generate random names.

 

[bleedNUred]

Wish this lawsuit never happened or EA monopolizing the football games, quality went to sh#t after the competition was bought out

 

[Elf]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

How do lawyers justify these kinds of fees when they know their clients won't be getting crap? Personally, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that.

 

[Bigred_inSD]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

How do lawyers justify these kinds of fees when they know their clients won't be getting crap? Personally, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that.

Having a conscience will keep you from being a lawyer.

 

[huKSer]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

How do lawyers justify these kinds of fees when they know their clients won't be getting crap? Personally, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that.

Having a conscience will keep you from being a lawyer.

Reported to AR Husker !!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sargon]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

How do lawyers justify these kinds of fees when they know their clients won't be getting crap? Personally, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that.

The legal system is in dire need of radical overhaul. I think my plan would work. If you are a liar, narcissist, or a**hole you're permanently barred from the bar. No exceptions. Ever. Go get a job painting houses.

 

[Micheal]

Lawyers making mountains of money in a class action with a pittance going to each class member? Who could have seen something crazy like that coming.

How do lawyers justify these kinds of fees when they know their clients won't be getting crap? Personally, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that.

The legal system is in dire need of radical overhaul. I think my plan would work. If you are a liar, narcissist, or a**hole you're permanently barred from the bar. No exceptions. Ever. Go get a job painting houses.

I'm definitely for your legal system but how do we figure out who the bad ones are? Also I am pulling for the NCAA to get all this licensing stuff figured out with the players and EA Sports so we can get a new NCAA Football game. Please please please please please please.