Stone Cold
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I am without question the most Anti Pelini person on this board from day 1, not even close. If he had came in and won the 9-10 games a year, and been loyal to Nebraska I would have been fine with him.
We are at best a 9-10 team. We are not nor are we going to be anytime soon a NC caliber team even with Coach Frost at the helm. Took a God of football 20 plus years to do it and it most likely ten times harder to do it now.
Who ever we hire needs the time to get his players his players on the field. Not as sophomores but as seniors. Not forced into playing walk ons in some of the most important positions. He needs to recruit for his system, and develop players.
I have read on this board, that even if Coach Frost is hired he would get 3 years. Only a few make this totally idiotic comment, but if they are out there, there will be more if the time draws near.
We really only have one chance, the AD needs to get it right, and spend what is needed to get it done. And we as a fan base need to support that. I don't care if its the home town boy or a New York city slicker. The best we can get period.
We are at best a 9-10 team. We are not nor are we going to be anytime soon a NC caliber team even with Coach Frost at the helm. Took a God of football 20 plus years to do it and it most likely ten times harder to do it now.
Who ever we hire needs the time to get his players his players on the field. Not as sophomores but as seniors. Not forced into playing walk ons in some of the most important positions. He needs to recruit for his system, and develop players.
I have read on this board, that even if Coach Frost is hired he would get 3 years. Only a few make this totally idiotic comment, but if they are out there, there will be more if the time draws near.
We really only have one chance, the AD needs to get it right, and spend what is needed to get it done. And we as a fan base need to support that. I don't care if its the home town boy or a New York city slicker. The best we can get period.
Stone Cold
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LOL
And i wanted to make sure that when i brought this up in a scott frost thread i wanted to be clear that it was really only in relation to what scott frost could do here. I think even if he stunk and did some 7-5 and 8-4s he would be given plenty of time to turn the ship around because he is not like bo but alot like Tom Osborne and i think that is what alot of us are looking for.
And i wanted to make sure that when i brought this up in a scott frost thread i wanted to be clear that it was really only in relation to what scott frost could do here. I think even if he stunk and did some 7-5 and 8-4s he would be given plenty of time to turn the ship around because he is not like bo but alot like Tom Osborne and i think that is what alot of us are looking for.
MichiganDad3
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In his later years that is true. I wonder how different things would have been without the extra second against Texas. Destroyed may not be the right word anymore. I think MR has set a new level of futility in big games. How many times in CFB has a team scored a TD on its first 8 possessions?
Stone Cold
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I dont know, but that big 10 title game was pretty brutal against wisconson.
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Matt Campbell=9 MILLION DOLLAR BUYOUT! I don't know why his name keeps getting brought up with a buyout like that. Seems like a good coach, no argument there, but Nebraska isn't going to seek him out while they're still paying Bo Pelini, Eichhorst?, and possibly Mike Riley IMO.
I don't know if Nebraska would do it or not. I think there are others more qualified.
I will say that Alabama thinks that Saben is a bargain buy. As they made over 100 million off of his National Championships and that was a few years back.
Winning the NC is the goal of course, and with it comes the real spoils. Think big BRI
I will say that Alabama thinks that Saben is a bargain buy. As they made over 100 million off of his National Championships and that was a few years back.
Winning the NC is the goal of course, and with it comes the real spoils. Think big BRI
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Good point, I agree that Saban has made them a ton of money, but capturing that lightning in the bottle again is awfully difficult and you just don't know if you've got it until it happens. I'm not sure if the gamble is worth it with Campbell until he gets another season under his belt at ISU. If he does it in back-to-back seasons then he's something. Ames isn't an easy place to recruit to or win at and apparently his wife loves Ames and he's not going anywhere based on comments from him. Of course anything can change and I'm not real familiar with his coaching background.
Ratt Mhule
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TCU is in a power 5 conference in a recruiting hotbed with a ton of resources. Gary Patterson can definetely win a national championship at TCU if he keeps this up. Fitzgerald is an alum at NW. If that wasnt the case I think he would have left eventually.
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Iowa St most certainly does not have the facilities and resources comparable to the other Big 12 teams, let alone Nebraska. Tv money does not just go to the football program, it goes to all athletics and Im not sure of their profit margin but Im pretty sure Nebraska is one of the few athletic depts that actual makes a profit at the end of the year.
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Fitzgerald doesn't leave NW because he has one of the best jobs in the country in regards to expectations. If he wins he's viewed as a great coach doing a lot with a little. He can lose and it's 'expected.' How cozy is that? Real cozy. His alumni status might play a minor role but if Fitzgerald were truly driven to win a national championship, as you suggest is every coach's goal, then there's no way he'd still be at NW.
There are plenty of coaches who stay at lower tier schools and never jump to P5, too.
It's not that big of a deal either way. I agree you're probably right in most cases in division one. I think it's bold to say it applies to all.
Cdog923
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Well, the reason this happened in later years is because the effort in recruiting wasn't there with that staff.
olddominionhusker
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I think in college ranks and below there are still some guys who see their job goals as developing players both on and off the field to succeed in whatever they do. Winning games is the secondary goal. Obviously these guys aren’t at top programs where they have to win.
To be clear, I’m not saying you can’t do both things. But I think particularly with some of the older coaches, the mentor aspect becomes more important
Ratt Mhule
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Maybe you are right. Im not sure if a big school has even aproached Fitzgerald and offered him to coach. He definetely would not leave for something he considered a lateral move.
I just cant fathom someone doing a job with hours that long: countless hours of film, pregaming strategy, recruiting and time away from their family if their goal is not to win some sort of championship at the highest level. Maybe some coaches just want to do it because they dont want a regular job and love the game, but most coaches I know, even coaches in pee wee/little league and high school are super competitive and cant stand to lose.
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