Should we fire Satterfield??
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chamrocck
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Why did OU move on from Gabriel? Their younger QBs are not good and they moved up in difficulty against those SEC defenses. I just don’t get why they moved on from a Heisman type QB candidate.
gossamorharpy
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chamrocck
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Maybe, I never understood what happened. I had heard OU was making way for Jackson Arnold but he is quite the bust so far. I would have prioritized keeping your best QB by far moving moving into the SEC.
BlackHillsHusker
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I thought Gabriel left because Lebby left???
gossamorharpy
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I’ve provided plenty of examples to backup my “blanket statements”
here’s some more examples of the blatant hypocrisy of this offensive staff:
1. Matt Rhule has said repeatedly we wanna be a body blow team with the run game. We entered the game ranked 90th in rushing, haven’t looked at where we are now but I imagine we’ve dipped closer to 100 after yesterday. There is a massive disconnect between what Rhule is selling us as and what his OC is actually calling. Am I expecting us to run as often as we’d like in a game we’re down early? Certainly not, but why are we passing on 7 of the first 8 plays when the first 15-20 plays are typically scripted the week prior
2. We are now 60% thru the season- what would you say our offensive identity is? Being multiple is not an answer. Last year we chalked it up to not having a qb to make the throws this offense demands. What’s the excuse this year? Poor line play in the run game, constantly calling screen plays with receivers who can’t block to save their lives, running backs who can’t hold on to the ball and run past teams. We are a systemic mess offensively
3. Indiana has some guys offensively that would look great on our squad. But they ain’t stellar enough to justify us getting floored by 49 points
4. We are incapable of big plays- we’ve gotten some PI calls that have helped us in quite a few games. Actual big plays however? They’ve completely disappeared since mid September
5. I mentioned above we can’t execute big plays, well, we also can’t execute sustain drives with consistency. Our defense played like s#!t, no doubt, but they’ve been hung out to dry in 3 of our last 4 games, and it took a 2nd half wake up against Purdue, quite possibly the worst team in p5, to not make it 4 in a row.
can the players execute better? Sure. But this is such a systemic mess with no easy answers in sight. I’m not calling for satts head now, we’re 5-2 and can still accomplish goals we all would’ve been happy with back in august. But as it stands today, it simply unnacceptable for us to walk in to next season with the offensive staff as constructed based off what we’ve seen for 19 games now
lo country
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Good stuff. Just a quick look at hos OC career. His best ranking IIRC, was his last year at USC where he was 40 IIRC (7-6). USC was 106 in 2021 (8-5), Temple was 88 in 2013 (2-10), 100 in 2014 (6-4) and 61 in 2015 (10-4). NOTE-Thompson was the OC at Temple in 2016 and they were 41 (10-4). His first year at Nebraska we were 123 (5-7) and currently sit at 91 (5-2). These were for "Team Offense" per Sports-Reference. The average of all of those is 87.....Sports reference lists 134 teams. On his average mark, we are better than 47 teams. W-L did improve, but multiple other factors come into play. Based soley on Total Offense, he's a lower level OC. BUT other factors could contribute to this.
And like you, there appears to be a huge disconnect in what Rhule says he wants and what Satt has delivered. The inability of Raiola not scrambling and running game struggling allows teams to simply make us one dimensional and put even more pressure on a true Fresh QB and a below average OC.
Archy1221
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I must have missed it but I haven’t seen people calling for Rhule and White to be fired. If so, those people would be wrong. However, with Satt….he is not a good OC and has no business being NU’s OC. If anyone disagrees, just point me in the direction of Satt EVER, having an offense worth writing home about. Him Having a top tier offense?
Again, I'm talking about looking at what actually happened and describing how what happened was specifically the OC's fault, as opposed to something that wasn't executed correctly.
There could be a ton of reasons of this, not the least of which are we don't have the capabilities to be what Rhule wants to be yet and the part where shouldn't an OC be calling the plays that are working better? Or putting the five-star QB we have to use?
"Identity" is just a term that people throw out - usually when they just don't like the results but no one is really able to identify. Other than the service academies, in year's of asking no one has actually been able to identify what any school's offensive identity is.
First, that has nothing to do with whether the fault lies more with the players or coaches.
Second, the defense was at least as terrible executing as the offense was the other day.
And that would likely be mostly an issue with not having players that can create big plays. Unless I'm missing the part where the OC can design a play that magically puts his receivers 20 yards behind the defense.
Other than the last drive of the half - where we were in desperation mode to try to get something to feel good about - We had 10+ play drives on three out of four possessions from the middle of the first quarter to the middle of the third. The drive after that was moving until we threw an INT. Seems like we were sustaining drives, just not scoring.
Very well could be. As I said at the start, I'm not a Satt apologist. I just think it's a lot more complicated than most people want to make it.
SouthLincoln Husker
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Same argument. Different coach !
Huskers93-97
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I don’t know about everyone else on the board but I think I get tired of all the excuses on this board for all the s#!tty coaches we have had. I view things more simply- show me results. But for numerous coaching staffs that have all proven to suck and got fired too many on this board defend their sucking as coaches because there is always some reason or it’s more complicated. I’m not saying it’s you I am just replying because I disagree it isn’t always more complicated. Maybe it is but the success Indiana is having in year one with a bunch of damn D2 players shows maybe it’s not complicated. Maybe it literally is coaching 90% if the time
lo country
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Thought I'd throw these stats from an article I just read. No running game and no FG is absolutely killing us.
https://huskerextra.com/news/football/mckewon-nebraska-can-t-expect-dylan-raiola-s-arm-to-beat-indiana-s-bazooka-by/article_1b727ad0-8f0b-11ef-865d-ebbcd2b1eccb.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_HuskerExtra&fbclid=IwY2xjawGCne9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHexnzROS2FuRVkIb2Nk8EsdiF8lFHzrBDvxbDlLcfRv2ffVF3vf29Bv9hQ_aem_EU8IdX67leRXgV1zlTAjOQ
Five Stats
5-20: Nebraska’s record, since joining the Big Ten, when it rushes for fewer than 100 yards. The Huskers’ second such loss of 2024 happened on Saturday; NU rushed for 48 yards in the 31-24 overtime loss to Illinois. Of the Huskers’ five wins, they’ve all happened in the last seven years: At Purdue in 2017; vs. South Alabama in 2019; at Rutgers and Iowa in 2022; and vs. Rutgers in 2024. Margin of victory in those games? One, 14, 1, 7 and 7 points.
2-18: NU’s record since joining the Big Ten when attempting 40 or more passes. The two wins are telling: One is, again, that 2017 win over Purdue, when Tanner Lee threw 50 passes and the game-winning touchdown to Stanley Morgan with 14 seconds left. The other? Jordan Westerkamp’s Hail Mary catch against Northwestern in 2013. That’s the list. Nebraska threw it 40 or more times five times in 2015 — lost ‘em all. Teams that throw the ball a lot are usually behind.
Nine: Times, since joining the Big Ten, that Nebraska has allowed at least five rushing touchdowns. IU’s performance on Saturday is the latest; prior to that, NU allowed five rushing touchdowns against… Georgia Southern. Wisconsin’s 2011, 2012 and 2014 teams make the list; the 2012 Badgers, in that 70-31 Big Ten Championship win, rushed for eight scores.
65%: Opponents’ red zone touchdown rate after Indiana scored touchdowns on…all…seven…possessions inside NU’s 20-yard line. What had been a top-20 red zone defense in terms of touchdown rate tumbled to 97th. The Huskers’ own offense made four trips inside Indiana’s 20 and scored once. For the season, NU has made 28 trips into the red zone and 16 times. That 71.43% scoring rate ranks 126th nationally and last in the Big Ten.
Eight: Years since Nebraska lost a game by at least 49 points. You have to go back Nov. 5, 2016, when NU lost 62-3 at Ohio State, to find a loss so lopsided. Surprised? Me too. The Huskers’ 2017 team — far worse than this one — dropped games by 42, 33 and 42 points, but none by 49. Since 2000, Nebraska has lost two games by a more lopsided margin than Saturday: The 2016 Ohio State game; and the 2004 Texas Tech game.
https://huskerextra.com/news/football/mckewon-nebraska-can-t-expect-dylan-raiola-s-arm-to-beat-indiana-s-bazooka-by/article_1b727ad0-8f0b-11ef-865d-ebbcd2b1eccb.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_HuskerExtra&fbclid=IwY2xjawGCne9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHexnzROS2FuRVkIb2Nk8EsdiF8lFHzrBDvxbDlLcfRv2ffVF3vf29Bv9hQ_aem_EU8IdX67leRXgV1zlTAjOQ
Five Stats
5-20: Nebraska’s record, since joining the Big Ten, when it rushes for fewer than 100 yards. The Huskers’ second such loss of 2024 happened on Saturday; NU rushed for 48 yards in the 31-24 overtime loss to Illinois. Of the Huskers’ five wins, they’ve all happened in the last seven years: At Purdue in 2017; vs. South Alabama in 2019; at Rutgers and Iowa in 2022; and vs. Rutgers in 2024. Margin of victory in those games? One, 14, 1, 7 and 7 points.
2-18: NU’s record since joining the Big Ten when attempting 40 or more passes. The two wins are telling: One is, again, that 2017 win over Purdue, when Tanner Lee threw 50 passes and the game-winning touchdown to Stanley Morgan with 14 seconds left. The other? Jordan Westerkamp’s Hail Mary catch against Northwestern in 2013. That’s the list. Nebraska threw it 40 or more times five times in 2015 — lost ‘em all. Teams that throw the ball a lot are usually behind.
Nine: Times, since joining the Big Ten, that Nebraska has allowed at least five rushing touchdowns. IU’s performance on Saturday is the latest; prior to that, NU allowed five rushing touchdowns against… Georgia Southern. Wisconsin’s 2011, 2012 and 2014 teams make the list; the 2012 Badgers, in that 70-31 Big Ten Championship win, rushed for eight scores.
65%: Opponents’ red zone touchdown rate after Indiana scored touchdowns on…all…seven…possessions inside NU’s 20-yard line. What had been a top-20 red zone defense in terms of touchdown rate tumbled to 97th. The Huskers’ own offense made four trips inside Indiana’s 20 and scored once. For the season, NU has made 28 trips into the red zone and 16 times. That 71.43% scoring rate ranks 126th nationally and last in the Big Ten.
Eight: Years since Nebraska lost a game by at least 49 points. You have to go back Nov. 5, 2016, when NU lost 62-3 at Ohio State, to find a loss so lopsided. Surprised? Me too. The Huskers’ 2017 team — far worse than this one — dropped games by 42, 33 and 42 points, but none by 49. Since 2000, Nebraska has lost two games by a more lopsided margin than Saturday: The 2016 Ohio State game; and the 2004 Texas Tech game.
lo country
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Cig is a great coach. Motivates his players. Schemes to what he has not what he wants. Gets the most out of his guys. He is all gas and no breaks. Listening to him, I think he is an a$$, but if I was playing for him or fan of Indy, I'd love him. Had a boss like like that. If you didn't work for her, people couldn't stand her and asked how I could work/like her. She was a pitbull for her crew. Loved it. Same with Cig.
gossamorharpy
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Fair, i just really want to see a 2-3 game stretch, against big ten teams, that gives me hope we’re headed in the right direction for next year and the year after. I wasn’t expecting a 10-2 season, it’s just extremely frustrating to see some of the same challenges we did last year, with a much improved set of players