Should we fire Satterfield??

[Undone]

We always think our call would work better than the OC's failed play, cause we never have to prove it. In honesty, I'm not sure what I'd call differently. 

But I'm starting to have my doubts. Certainly curious what another OC would do with Raiola and the talent behind him.

I hear you.

Probably an oversimplification, but this season we've basically traded the threat of the QB run with the threat of the short pass between the hashes. I think one could argue that in the past three games as the competition has gotten tougher, what we've traded for is currently either even or at a slight net loss in terms of effictiveness.

Teams are selling out for the run or the short pass on 1st down/2nd & long.

So many of our fans don't really like this idea, but it seems like we need to throw downfield more or 1st & 2nd to try to loosen up the middle of the field. Or, we can lean into the short passes and try to get the team to execute them better.

UCLA is going to be interesting.

 

[lo country]

I hear you.

Probably an oversimplification, but this season we've basically traded the threat of the QB run with the threat of the short pass between the hashes. I think one could argue that in the past three games as the competition has gotten tougher, what we've traded for is currently either even or at a slight net loss in terms of effictiveness.

Teams are selling out for the run or the short pass on 1st down/2nd & long.

So many of our fans don't really like this idea, but it seems like we need to throw downfield more or 1st & 2nd to try to loosen up the middle of the field. Or, we can lean into the short passes and try to get the team to execute them better.

UCLA is going to be interesting.

@Mavric posted in the game thread that Raiola went 1-10 on passes of 10+ yards against OSU. Unsure why it was so bad. I agree if they’re stacking the box (they are) the only way to get them out is accurate deep balls they have to acct for. With an immobile QB and the love of the screen pass, defenses are teeing off on us like they did with HH, AM, TA etc…. Stop the run (short pass) and make us one dimensional. Unfortunately, we almost. Become non-dimensional.  I don’t know if injury, better teams or defensive screens, but teams have taken away those passes between the LB’s and safeties that Raiola was praised for early on.  Not having a top end speed guy hurts as well. If Chai is healthy, I’d bring him in the last 4 games to at least run past people….

 

[desertshox]

@Mavric 

Not having a top end speed guy hurts as well.

Barney and Lloyd?

 

[Undone]

Yeah I feel like Barney is stupid-fast, Lloyd isn't too far behind, and at one point people said Rahmir was one of the three fastest guys on the team in the Frost era.

 

[Huskers93-97]

I've been defending Satterfield because it looked to me that his playcalling worked well against lesser teams, and a still flawed offensive line thwarts a lot of the execution. We always think our call would work better than the OC's failed play, cause we never have to prove it. In honesty, I'm not sure what I'd call differently. 

But I'm starting to have my doubts. Certainly curious what another OC would do with Raiola and the talent behind him. 

The play calling is only one piece to being a good OC. I think the thing that separates the average from good OCs is their coaching and game planning during the week. Lots of plays can and would work if the kids executed at a high level. Yes good intuition on game day helps but we need both and I don’t see the kids making good decisions and executing which is practice issues to me. Well coached teams react well to the moment because they practiced game situations and are ready for them 

The fact we went toe to toe with Ohio state tells me it is not a talent issue. We have the kids to win that game 

 

[floridacorn]

I don’t understand how this isn’t supposed to be an immediate hit read to the inside receiver for big yardage?  
 

how is there not an immediate blitz check in this route?   The QB and inside receiver should recognize it and he should replace the blitzer in the middle.  While the outside receiver coming across is open later, it takes more time than it needs.   
 

I don't know what OSU had shown throughout this game/season, but you are getting a defender peeling back into that hole position from this look a lot.  Why I didn't mind the slant being run to #2 underneath #3 in the other similar look.  To your point however, when the D has 7 at the line, you can't be caught off guard when all 7 come.

 

[3gunhusker]

thread title should be changed to "Why hasn't Satterfield been fired yet?"

 

[Mavric]

The fact we went toe to toe with Ohio state tells me it is not a talent issue. We have the kids to win that game 

Eh ... pretty sure this take is just believing what you want to believe.  Recruiting, draft picks and everything else would tell you that they have significantly better talent.

The more objective take would be that we got our talent to perform significantly better than they did.  But that doesn't fit the narrative.

 

[Undone]

Eh ... pretty sure this take is just believing what you want to believe.  Recruiting, draft picks and everything else would tell you that they have significantly better talent.

The more objective take would be that we got our talent to perform significantly better than they did.  But that doesn't fit the narrative.

Well we knew our defense could play to the level we played in this one, right?

I still think defense and special teams are to blame for the Illinois loss, way more than the offense. If we win that one we're 6-2 right now.

We were so close in the Illinois game; our kicker missed an extremely makeable field goal to go up with 3:00 left. We had a terrible game against Indiana. Then we lost to a team who we were like 26 point dogs to.

Our players need to come in hungry to this UCLA game. Like, really wanting to just tear them apart. If we can't do that, if we can't get our guys motivated to finish strong then it'll be its own discussion.

 

[lo country]

Barney and Lloyd?

Yeah I feel like Barney is stupid-fast, Lloyd isn't too far behind, and at one point people said Rahmir was one of the three fastest guys on the team in the Frost era.

Both are fast.  I think Barney was 4.6 guy out of HS and Lloyd was 4.2-4.3.  I think that Banks and Neyor were to be our answer at receiver both 6'4 220 vs Barney at 6 170 and Lloyd at 5'10 180.  The bigger guys to get those 50/50 balls.  Although Barney leads the team in receptions and 4th in the nation for freshman.  Both have started 2 games a piece so far this year.  Having guys that "can" take the top off and using them is something different.  TBH, when I think of them I think of the shorter routes, screens, or in the running game.  For example, Barney had 8 receptions on 9 targets against IU, but netted 32 yards.  If  they have the wheels to take the top off then use them.  Let Neylor and Banks get those middle routes.  Bigger and "should be" more physical against the smaller DB's.  Blocking collectively needs to improve across the board by the receiver TE group.  But that's just me. 

 

[Undone]

Both are fast.  I think Barney was 4.6 guy out of HS and Lloyd was 4.2-4.3.  I think that Banks and Neyor were to be our answer at receiver both 6'4 220 vs Barney at 6 170 and Lloyd at 5'10 180.  The bigger guys to get those 50/50 balls.  Although Barney leads the team in receptions and 4th in the nation for freshman.  Both have started 2 games a piece so far this year.  Having guys that "can" take the top off and using them is something different.  TBH, when I think of them I think of the shorter routes, screens, or in the running game.  For example, Barney had 8 receptions on 9 targets against IU, but netted 32 yards.  If  they have the wheels to take the top off then use them.  Let Neylor and Banks get those middle routes.  Bigger and "should be" more physical against the smaller DB's.  Blocking collectively needs to improve across the board by the receiver TE group.  But that's just me. 

Definitely agree about blocking needing to greatly improve by receivers & tight ends.

Another good discussion point might be, is Satterfield bad at drawing safeties "over here" to then spring a guy wide open deep down the field? Or is Raiola just not seeing the open man?

I really dislike any serious criticism of Raiola at this point because in a different situation - in the old days - this kid is absolutely redshirting. I'm glad we started him for sure, but I'm just saying.

 

[Mavric]

Easy short crossing route.

 

[Mavric]

Seems like there was confusion over who the motion man was supposed to block.  Which seems odd because it looks pretty obvious.

 

[ZRod]

Hate saying this on the internet, but he's kind of been playing with a "deer in the headlights" thing for years. I'm not sure if it's effort as much as he just isn't focusing in on where his movements need to go to.

That's not a pathetic block at all though. It's just really good play recognition and executive by the defender. Why on god's green earth would Benhart be expecting the nose to tackle lined up in a 1-tech opposite of his side to release and cross his face??? He's supposed to be picking up a LB or CB not a nose tackle who is strong side away from him. Sure you take anyone who crosses your face, but that's not who should be crossing your face  :lol:  it's a "wtf!!!" moment when you think you're about to blow up a CB.

Which harkens back to why did tOSU know we'd be running screens when we were running screens?

 

[Mavric]

Barney continues to be our best weapon.

Benhart continues to be .... woof.