Slot Receiver

[knapplc]

Bravo, Hercules. Great post.

 

[mnhusker]

T-mart is the wild card but I hope we see pre-injury guy with a bit more poise hit the field next year. Green has had pleanty of opportunities to shine and has proven to be serviceable, he has actually had opportunity now for two years to light it up and steal the starting job. I like him but for now my chips are with Martinez and my hopes are that one of the new guys can come on the field as the back up and cause every one to cheer and more imprtantly make the other team's D nervous.

 

[walksalone]

I think outside of a complete jumping of the shark by T-Mart, he's going to be our QB opening day next year.

Does this make me happy, and i'll answer this as i'm sure the most of you would.

If he's healthy, and looks like he did first half of last season, HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

If he looks like he did during the 2nd half, then I think you can come up with your own response

 

[nhuskers5]

Kenny Bell can play slot can't he? I read somewhere that even the one secondary was having trouble covering him deep...

 

[Apathy]

Enough of this QB talk....when will our Offensive line start BLOCKING???

Did anybody harp on Helu or Rex because neither of these two rushed for over 100 yards with at least 1 TD against Texas, Texas A&M, and Washington? NO.

It all starts up front in the trenches and if our OLine can't run and pass block than how can our running backs succeed at running the ball or allowing the QB time to throw the ball.

 

[suh_fan93]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

 

[walksalone]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Kinda playing devil's advocate...

I know it's not '83, '94, or '97, but here's the thing, the defenses may be more impressive now, than back then. Would have the aforemention great Husker QB's have thrived against the defenses now, with the offensive and defensive scheme's being implemented?

Everyone's forgetting we're trying to base an entire body of work off of one year.

If you really want to see what this kid has got, you've got have him start, hopefully play an entire season injury free. Not until then, you will truly find out, if he's got what it takes, or he was a shot in the dark, where people will talk about him years from now, about what could have been. His lack of decisiveness has been pontificated upon ad nauseum, which will have to change, or it'll be over early.

I don't think anyone would be opposed to a running QB. Everyone is opposed to a running QB that is more of a detriment. We've had several great running QB's and it's shown that under the right system, a running QB can be another viable option.

 

[suh_fan93]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Kinda playing devil's advocate...

I know it's not '83, '94, or '97, but here's the thing, the defenses may be more impressive now, than back then. Would have the aforemention great Husker QB's have thrived against the defenses now, with the offensive and defensive scheme's being implemented?

Everyone's forgetting we're trying to base an entire body of work off of one year.

If you really want to see what this kid has got, you've got have him start, hopefully play an entire season injury free. Not until then, you will truly find out, if he's got what it takes, or he was a shot in the dark, where people will talk about him years from now, about what could have been. His lack of decisiveness has been pontificated upon ad nauseum, which will have to change, or it'll be over early.

I don't think anyone would be opposed to a running QB. Everyone is opposed to a running QB that is more of a detriment. We've had several great running QB's and it's shown that under the right system, a running QB can be another viable option.

Nice post. Per your bolded part Nebraska doesn't have the personnel to line up and let Martinez or whoever is back there just run. The secret is out. If we had a smash mouth, monster offensive line that might work. There has to be some variation there.

Just as a side note there was a nice little article about Milt Tenopir in the OWH today.

Here's a link.

http://www.omaha.com...-talks-football

Tenopir said college football trends have changed since Nebraska last powered its way a national championship.

"Very, very few teams are going to line up in a two-back (offense) and hammer the football," he said.

 

[HeyBurke]

Just thought I'd make a pitch for Yusef Wade. The guy is an absolute beast. I went to high school with him and saw him play at every home game (band). He's also got a pretty inspirational story to back his abilities up.

Also, Dillon Schrodt is another guy that went to my school. He's gotten zero publicity this year, but once again, the guy's a beast.

 

[Apathy]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Mark me down as a TMart fan.

Before the season started I claimed that Lee would be our starter because of experience and I wasn't sold on Green just yet.

The first game of the season Martinez as the starter he stuns every Husker fan in the stadium with is spectacular performance which he carried that through 7 games until his 8th start against Mizzou when he got hurt.

Martinez hasn't been the same since being sidelined by a high ankle sprain. Even when he started against Kansas his 2 gear burst and cuts were not the same. He didn't have that open field speed that he poised in his first 7 starts. Reinjuring that ankle against A&M made his ability to hurt the opposing defense with his legs even less effective.

Our Offensive line has failed in both run and pass blocking in all 4 losses. The OLine allowed 29 sacks thru the whole seasona and 15 of those 29 sacks all came in the last 4 games.

We only had 91 rushing yards with 98 passing yards against Washington in the Bowl game not to mention UW sacked us 5 times, 145 rushing yards with 148 passing yards against OU allowing OU to sack us 7 times, and 138 rushing yards with 172 passing yards against A&M allowing A&M to sack us 2 times....not spectacular stats.

Our Offensive Line got manhandled against UT, A&M, OU, and UW. Both in the Big 12 Championship and Bowl game our Offensive Line spent more time in the backfield rather than pushing the opposing team up the field.

Did anybody predict Martinez to have a spectacular season before the 2010 season? NO. Did Martinez have a spectacular season as a redshirt Freshman? YES. The kid would've been the first Freshman to pass and run for a 1,000 yards in a season..first person to ever accomplish this difficult task for a young kid.

Martinez proved to be a better QB in his first year compared to Cody Green during his Freshman and Sophomore year. Do I think that Martinez should've been pulled from the Big 12 Championship game? YES. Do I think that Martinez is an awful QB and shouldn't start next season? NO. Its hard for any QB/RB to do anything with the football if your Offensive Lineman can't block anybody longer than 2 seconds.

Give Martinez time to grow into becoming a better QB.

 

[Hercules]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tommie Frazier looked bad against Iowa State his freshman year, a game Nebraska lost, and Frazier wasn't even hurt.

Eric Crouch struggled throughout his freshman year, and his team finished the year with fewer wins than Martinez's 2010 squad.

As for Steve Taylor and Turner Gill, their only playing time their freshman season was with the freshman team, not with the varsity.

Scott Frost was at Stanford his freshman year, struggling to learn the west coast offense before transferring to Nebraska.

Taylor Martinez's freshman year > any other freshman QB ever to play at Nebraska. The only guy who comes close is Frazier, and he wasn't playing hurt for half the season.

It doesn't matter what year it is. Option offenses work. If they didn't, Auburn and Oregon wouldn't have been playing for the national championship the other night. Martinez is an option QB. Nebraska's is an option offense.

If you want to go back to the west coast offense, that's fine. But the west coast offense was introduced to Nebraska this last decade, and that was our worst decade since the 1950's. I'd rather move forward with a modern offense, but one that reflects the philosophies that allowed Nebraska to be great in the first place.

 

[suh_fan93]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tommie Frazier looked bad against Iowa State his freshman year, a game Nebraska lost, and Frazier wasn't even hurt.

Eric Crouch struggled throughout his freshman year, and his team finished the year with fewer wins than Martinez's 2010 squad.

As for Steve Taylor and Turner Gill, their only playing time their freshman season was with the freshman team, not with the varsity.

Scott Frost was at Stanford his freshman year, struggling to learn the west coast offense before transferring to Nebraska.

Taylor Martinez's freshman year > any other freshman QB ever to play at Nebraska. The only guy who comes close is Frazier, and he wasn't playing hurt for half the season.

It doesn't matter what year it is. Option offenses work. If they didn't, Auburn and Oregon wouldn't have been playing for the national championship the other night. Martinez is an option QB. Nebraska's is an option offense.

 

If you want to go back to the west coast offense, that's fine. But the west coast offense was introduced to Nebraska this last decade, and that was our worst decade since the 1950's. I'd rather move forward with a modern offense, but one that reflects the philosophies that allowed Nebraska to be great in the first place.

You're comparing Nebraska's REDSHIRT freshman quarterback to past Husker legends and now you are comparing our offense to Auburn and Oregon's.

Whatever works for you man.

We shall definitely see next year won't we...

 

[huskerscott]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tommie Frazier looked bad against Iowa State his freshman year, a game Nebraska lost, and Frazier wasn't even hurt.

Eric Crouch struggled throughout his freshman year, and his team finished the year with fewer wins than Martinez's 2010 squad.

As for Steve Taylor and Turner Gill, their only playing time their freshman season was with the freshman team, not with the varsity.

Scott Frost was at Stanford his freshman year, struggling to learn the west coast offense before transferring to Nebraska.

Taylor Martinez's freshman year > any other freshman QB ever to play at Nebraska. The only guy who comes close is Frazier, and he wasn't playing hurt for half the season.

It doesn't matter what year it is. Option offenses work. If they didn't, Auburn and Oregon wouldn't have been playing for the national championship the other night. Martinez is an option QB. Nebraska's is an option offense.

 

If you want to go back to the west coast offense, that's fine. But the west coast offense was introduced to Nebraska this last decade, and that was our worst decade since the 1950's. I'd rather move forward with a modern offense, but one that reflects the philosophies that allowed Nebraska to be great in the first place.

You're comparing Nebraska's REDSHIRT freshman quarterback to past Husker legends and now you are comparing our offense to Auburn and Oregon's.

Whatever works for you man.

We shall definitely see next year won't we...

Yea I dont get these threads comparing to happened this year to what happened in 90's is just freaking stupid. College Football world as changed so much since then you cant even really compare. With the 85 scholy limit, more freshman are asked to come in and play alot right away. So comparing TMart to TF is ridiculous. Plus I dont think TF started playing till about the 3rd or 4th game that season, also I believe 2 games less were played in 93 season.

No body has any business mentioning our offense in the breath as Auburns and Oregons. We are light years away from getting to where they are at. I believe we are about 5 years late to the zone read party. By the time we get to work, defenses will have figured out how to stop it if they havent already.

 

[Hercules]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tommie Frazier looked bad against Iowa State his freshman year, a game Nebraska lost, and Frazier wasn't even hurt.

Eric Crouch struggled throughout his freshman year, and his team finished the year with fewer wins than Martinez's 2010 squad.

As for Steve Taylor and Turner Gill, their only playing time their freshman season was with the freshman team, not with the varsity.

Scott Frost was at Stanford his freshman year, struggling to learn the west coast offense before transferring to Nebraska.

Taylor Martinez's freshman year > any other freshman QB ever to play at Nebraska. The only guy who comes close is Frazier, and he wasn't playing hurt for half the season.

It doesn't matter what year it is. Option offenses work. If they didn't, Auburn and Oregon wouldn't have been playing for the national championship the other night. Martinez is an option QB. Nebraska's is an option offense.

 

If you want to go back to the west coast offense, that's fine. But the west coast offense was introduced to Nebraska this last decade, and that was our worst decade since the 1950's. I'd rather move forward with a modern offense, but one that reflects the philosophies that allowed Nebraska to be great in the first place.

You're comparing Nebraska's REDSHIRT freshman quarterback to past Husker legends and now you are comparing our offense to Auburn and Oregon's.

Whatever works for you man.

We shall definitely see next year won't we...

Auburn and Oregon run variations of spread option offenses. That's what Nebraska has been moving towards. It's a legit comparison. I'm completely aware we're not as good at it yet, but people on this board are arguing for a move away from that scheme. I'm arguing for a move to get better at that scheme.

And I'm not comparing Martinez's freshman year to Husker legends' senior years. I'm comparing his freshman year to THEIR freshman year, and saying, "Damn, he had a better freshman year than any of those guys. Maybe we should stop dumping on him for a second."

And Huskerscott, when you say that defenses will "figure out how to stop the zone read if they haven't already..." Defenses figured out in the 80's how to stop the triple option - that doesn't mean they could execute and do it. Teams right now know how to stop the zone read option - but again, that doesn't mean they can execute and do it. The zone read option isn't a gimmick, it's as legit of a concept as the old triple option, and those things are never going to go away in college football. They're always going to stress defenses, they're never going to be obsolete.

 

[Hunter94]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarrassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tommie Frazier looked bad against Iowa State his freshman year, a game Nebraska lost, and Frazier wasn't even hurt.

Eric Crouch struggled throughout his freshman year, and his team finished the year with fewer wins than Martinez's 2010 squad.

As for Steve Taylor and Turner Gill, their only playing time their freshman season was with the freshman team, not with the varsity.

Scott Frost was at Stanford his freshman year, struggling to learn the west coast offense before transferring to Nebraska.

Taylor Martinez's freshman year > any other freshman QB ever to play at Nebraska. The only guy who comes close is Frazier, and he wasn't playing hurt for half the season.

It doesn't matter what year it is. Option offenses work. If they didn't, Auburn and Oregon wouldn't have been playing for the national championship the other night. Martinez is an option QB. Nebraska's is an option offense.

 

If you want to go back to the west coast offense, that's fine. But the west coast offense was introduced to Nebraska this last decade, and that was our worst decade since the 1950's. I'd rather move forward with a modern offense, but one that reflects the philosophies that allowed Nebraska to be great in the first place.

You're comparing Nebraska's REDSHIRT freshman quarterback to past Husker legends and now you are comparing our offense to Auburn and Oregon's.

Whatever works for you man.

We shall definitely see next year won't we...

Auburn and Oregon run variations of spread option offenses. That's what Nebraska has been moving towards. It's a legit comparison. I'm completely aware we're not as good at it yet, but people on this board are arguing for a move away from that scheme. I'm arguing for a move to get better at that scheme.

And I'm not comparing Martinez's freshman year to Husker legends' senior years. I'm comparing his freshman year to THEIR freshman year, and saying, "Damn, he had a better freshman year than any of those guys. Maybe we should stop dumping on him for a second."

And Huskerscott, when you say that defenses will "figure out how to stop the zone read if they haven't already..." Defenses figured out in the 80's how to stop the triple option - that doesn't mean they could execute and do it. Teams right now know how to stop the zone read option - but again, that doesn't mean they can execute and do it. The zone read option isn't a gimmick, it's as legit of a concept as the old triple option, and those things are never going to go away in college football. They're always going to stress defenses, they're never going to be obsolete.

hell, if Texas could stop our zone read, any one's defense ought to be able to stop it......even Watson is not sure what identity to assign his offense, how can we even expect him to move this offense forward?......everyone seems to want to emulate what is working now, first the spread, now the zone read....i think you adapt your talent to an offense that can move the ball, when and if you ever get enough good athletes or ones that can execute it, then you can install whatever the hell you want and make it work.....i hate trends.