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[Forge]

"The first game of the season Martinez as the starter he stuns every Husker fan in the stadium with is spectacular performance which he carried that through 7 games until his 8th start against Mizzou when he got hurt"

Umm, maybe you didnt watch all the games? I was at the SDSU game this year and he didnt "stun" anyone with his "spectacular performance".

 

[junior4949]

The really sad part of all of this is the fact that had Martinez started the season like it ended and ended the season like he started we'd all be pumped for a NC run next year. The thing most people overlook is the fact that during his redshirt season his playing time was occupied as a wide receiver rather than a QB. In essence, he was a true freshman out there. He passed the ball well enough to win the Texas game. Unfortunately, our wide receivers forgot to come out of the locker room. The only thing stopping Martinez from becoming one of the QB greats here at Nebraska is Barney Cotton.

 

[knapplc]

Umm, maybe you didnt watch all the games? I was at the SDSU game this year and he didnt "stun" anyone with his "spectacular performance".

Didja see anyone wearing read stunning anyone in that game? No? Crickets....?

 

[Forge]

Kapplc - nope. Just clarifying that he didn’t stun everyone until he was hurt. Everyone blames it on his injury, but what was the excuse for SDSU?

He said he was playing devil’s advocate, I was just playing along

 

[junior4949]

His excuse against SDSU was that his OL was getting whipped by a high school team. Poor OL play can make a pretty remarkable QB look pretty unremarkable.

 

[Forge]

Junior - Yes, both OL and DL did get man handled. I was utterly speechless when a single guy was pushing Crick around. But again, same linemen that played against UW the first time, KSU, etc. You can’t tell me that SDSU had better linemen then KSU, UW, etc. So why the huge difference?

Look, I don’t think it’s all Taylor's fault for his crappy games. This is a team sport, it takes 11 men doing their job to be effective. How many times did we see missed blocks, receivers dropping the ball, running backs fumbling? Everyone makes mistakes. I think with Martinez (like you said earlier, Junior), we didn’t see any progression from start to finish, and that worries some people, including me.

Honestly, I am just tired of people making excuses for Taylor. He sucked it up in about half his games, plain and simple. It’s part of the game and part of growing as a freshman QB. I don’t think he should leave or be moved to another position. I just hope that he really does learn from his mistakes and gives Cairnes, Green and possibly Turner a run for their money in fall camp. Competition breeds excellence!

 

[huskerscott]

Kapplc - nope. Just clarifying that he didnt stun everyone until he was hurt. Everyone blames it on his injury, but what was the excuse for SDSU?

He said he was playing devils advocate, I was just playing along

He wasnt schooling Texas either. In fact was replaced by Lee in the 2nd half. I know we had million drops, but we had a million drops because they were stopping Martinez.

Like I said this offense is stoppable. Especially when the defense is fast and plays disciplined. Of course our offense doesnt do them any favors by not being multi dimenisonal either.

 

[Apathy]

Kapplc - nope. Just clarifying that he didn’t stun everyone until he was hurt. Everyone blames it on his injury, but what was the excuse for SDSU?

He said he was playing devil’s advocate, I was just playing along

Seriously who on Offense had a good game. I don't see people complaining that Helu or Burkhead played like crap but lets blame it on the QB instead. BTW I highly doubt Nebraska even wanted to play SDSU and figured just by showing up we were going to roll over them.

 

[knapplc]

Kapplc - nope. Just clarifying that he didn’t stun everyone until he was hurt. Everyone blames it on his injury, but what was the excuse for SDSU?

He said he was playing devil’s advocate, I was just playing along

Seriously who on Offense had a good game. I don't see people complaining that Helu or Burkhead played like crap but lets blame it on the QB instead. BTW I highly doubt Nebraska even wanted to play SDSU and figured just by showing up we were going to roll over them.

This cannot be stressed enough. Nobody is talking about replacing Rex, or the O Line, or anyone (other than coaches), but Taylor - THAT GUY has GOT to go.

Taylor Martinez - the 2010 scapegoat.

 

[bshirt]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tmart put up gaudy rushing numbers despite not having an Oline within 500 miles of the ones Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost or Brook Berringer had. He also didn't have an OC or qb coach within 1,000 miles of TO.

As others have already stated, ranked teams Oklahoma St & Missouri were the 7th & 8th games of the year. Hardly "early" games.

Some fans are just too blind to see that. Thanks.

 

[huskerscott]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tmart put up gaudy rushing numbers despite not having an Oline within 500 miles of the ones Turner Gill,.

Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost or Brook Berringer had. He also didn't have an OC or qb coach within 1,000 miles of TO.

As others have already stated, ranked teams Oklahoma St & Missouri were the 7th & 8th games of the year. Hardly "early" games

Some fans are just too blind to see that. Thanks.

and those teams were absolutely awesome on defense too. :sarcasm

 

[zoogs]

Everyone has a scapegoat. If it's not Taylor, it's Watson.

 

[Hercules]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tmart put up gaudy rushing numbers despite not having an Oline within 500 miles of the ones Turner Gill,.

Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost or Brook Berringer had. He also didn't have an OC or qb coach within 1,000 miles of TO.

As others have already stated, ranked teams Oklahoma St & Missouri were the 7th & 8th games of the year. Hardly "early" games

Some fans are just too blind to see that. Thanks.

and those teams were absolutely awesome on defense too. :sarcasm

Missouri's defense was supposed to be pretty good, and we blew right through them a week after they beat up on Oklahoma.

 

[suh_fan93]

I fail to comprehend why someone who lived through the glory days of the program would be opposed to a running QB like Taylor Martinez. We are the winningest football program in the last 40 years thanks in part to QBs who were very similar to Taylor Martinez. And out of all of those QBs - including Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Jammal Lord, Scott Frost, Brook Berringer - Taylor had BY FAR the best freshman season. It's not even close, Taylor's freshman year dwarfed Tommie Frazier's freshman year, and Eric Crouch's freshman year, and I don't think anybody else even got playing time their freshman year.

It's simple. This isn't 1983, 1994 or 1997 that's why. You're obviously obsessed with Martinez's gaudy rushing numbers early on.

Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch, Scott Frost and Brook Berringer. None of those guys got towards the end of the season and still looked as lost as Martinez did behind the pocket in the Big 12 Championship game loss and the embarassing bowl loss.

I could care less about the gaudy rushing numbers TMart put up earlier this year. Obviously some people here are blinded by them...

It's great that he ran all over the Western Kentucky's, Idaho's and Kansas State's of the world but until he win's as many games as Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch and Scott Frost don't start comparing the two. Thanks.

Tmart put up gaudy rushing numbers despite not having an Oline within 500 miles of the ones Turner Gill, Steve Taylor, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost or Brook Berringer had. He also didn't have an OC or qb coach within 1,000 miles of TO.

As others have already stated, ranked teams Oklahoma St & Missouri were the 7th & 8th games of the year. Hardly "early" games.

Some fans are just too blind to see that. Thanks.

2010-11 final rankings Defense. (NU-10th)

Missouri- 41st

Oklahoma St.- 91st

 

You're welcome....

 

[Hercules]

Kapplc - nope. Just clarifying that he didn’t stun everyone until he was hurt. Everyone blames it on his injury, but what was the excuse for SDSU?

He said he was playing devil’s advocate, I was just playing along

He wasnt schooling Texas either. In fact was replaced by Lee in the 2nd half. I know we had million drops, but we had a million drops because they were stopping Martinez.

Like I said this offense is stoppable. Especially when the defense is fast and plays disciplined. Of course our offense doesnt do them any favors by not being multi dimenisonal either.

1. You don't understand offensive football if you think that we lost the Texas game because they stopped Taylor. Of course they stopped Taylor from running the ball, that was their ENTIRE gameplan. They sold out. If a defense dedicates 9 guys to stop your running game, they're going to stop your running game. You just have to pass the ball to your wide open wide receivers, which we did, and we dropped it. That offensive performance isn't on Taylor. Zac Lee didn't fair any better in that game than Taylor did. You know why? Because we dropped the ball.

2. Every offense is stoppable.

3. When the defense plays fast and disciplined, they'll stop ANY offense. But stopping an option offense requires defenses to play faster and even more disciplined.

4. Our offense was zero-dimensional at the end of the season. We didn't have a running game, and we didn't have a passing game. The reason is because we didn't have a running game. Before Taylor got hurt, we had a dynamic running game. When teams tried to stop the run, we then had a passing game available to us (Texas, and Oklahoma State). If they tried to stop Taylor from running AND from passing, then Roy Helu goes for 300 yards (Missouri).

I don't know how I can explain this any better, so people please help me out, because some posters still aren't getting it.