So is ZeBop banned or suspended?

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Army Husker said:
borNred said:
Wow...he'll probably register under a new name...
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I'm no computer expert, but I think the ban spans to a person's IP address or something like that?
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You aren't going to be able to ban someone, period. IP addresses are easily masked or even change (well, these aren't the days of dialup anymore, so I'm not too sure how often IPs change for most people). It's OK though, bans aren't designed to close a website completely from someone, because that is fairly impossible. Also, if he registers under a new name but doesn't bother anyone, what's the problem?

By the way, I'd like to make a suggestion, if I may. Please note that this is not critical of the mods' decision, which I completely respect, and it does not directly relate to what happened here, because as AR explained, there were other circumstances leading to the ban. But what about revising the 3-strike system in this way:

After the third strike, a one-day suspension instead of 7-days. The next time the user gets banned, they get another one-day suspension. The third time, a permanent ban. Sometimes in arguments people get heated, and one day off might be good for them to chill out and calm down. If they get suspended three times, then I think a permanent ban is merited.

The reason I wouldn't suggest 7-day suspensions is because well, getting told "You need to take a day off and chill", I think people can accept as a consequence for breaking the rules. But "take a week off?" (a week is a long time in the internet!) I'm not sure that would be treated as anything different than a permanent ban. It is the sort of thing where it is almost understandable that people wouldn't take kindly too. Granted, they did break the rules, but I feel that the intention is perhaps not best served by a 7-day suspension.

I'd like to add that I probably don't understand these rules too well, so I am probably way off base...and that I mean no harm by the suggestions, what happened with ze bop just got me thinking a little. :)

 
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he was technically right though, in the long run, correct? the guy was bragging about how he told everyone that Ganz was a liability and nothing more.. yet the same QB brings us back and helps us win the game.. sure the "huskerbitch" was over the line, but not even close to the worse thing i've seen on here, worse things that have gone unpunished really... anyways, blutch hasn't been around since after the game either.. oooops. But obviously if he didn't want to be around, that's cool but i think i agree with the 1 day suspension.. maybe not 3 of em, but at least 1-1day suspension 1st.

 
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But what about revising the 3-strike system in this way:

After the third strike, a one-day suspension instead of 7-days. The next time the user gets banned, they get another one-day suspension. The third time, a permanent ban. Sometimes in arguments people get heated, and one day off might be good for them to chill out and calm down. If they get suspended three times, then I think a permanent ban is merited.

The reason I wouldn't suggest 7-day suspensions is because well, getting told "You need to take a day off and chill", I think people can accept as a consequence for breaking the rules. But "take a week off?" (a week is a long time in the internet!) I'm not sure that would be treated as anything different than a permanent ban. It is the sort of thing where it is almost understandable that people wouldn't take kindly too. Granted, they did break the rules, but I feel that the intention is perhaps not best served by a 7-day suspension.
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It's certainly something we'll kick around, and we appreciate the suggestion. But let me give a little background - it may help in this discussion…

We have an "informal" three-strike system. By "informal", I mean simply that while we generally adhere to that process, we have always reserved the right to ban anyone for any reason. For example, we immediately ban anyone that posts links to porn, is an obvious spammer, engages in racist remarks, etc.

However, as I said, in general we use a three-strike system. The first strike results in a warning level increase. The second results in a seven-day suspension. The third is a permanent ban. So, except in exceptional cases, we don't suspend or ban on the first violation.

My practice is to increase the warning level and then to either PM or email the violator. In addition, I post it in the thread in which the violation did that. In the warning, I state that the person violated the rules - in the PM or email I even provide a link to the offending post - and then I explain that the second violation results in a suspension, and the third results on a ban. The reason I post it in the thread as well is that the email may end up in a spam folder or be deleted without reading, or that the PM goes unread. In addition, it serves as a reminder for everyone else.

We started this years ago because, frankly, the board was getting out of control. No matter how many times we warned anyone, it wasn't doing the trick. If I recall correctly, we even tried some one-day bans for cooling off, but the end result was that it wasn't long enough - seemed the violators would simply have just enough time to stew and get more worked up, and would return just for the purpose of flaming. Hence, the seven-day ban on a second violation.

he was technically right though, in the long run, correct? the guy was bragging about how he told everyone that Ganz was a liability and nothing more.. yet the same QB brings us back and helps us win the game.. sure the "huskerbitch" was over the line, but not even close to the worse thing i've seen on here, worse things that have gone unpunished really... anyways, blutch hasn't been around since after the game either.. oooops. But obviously if he didn't want to be around, that's cool but i think i agree with the 1 day suspension.. maybe not 3 of em, but at least 1-1day suspension 1st.
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Whether zE bOp was correct in the opinion isn't really relevant. The one thing that will kill a board faster than anything is when it turns into a flame fest. I can't count the number of times that someone has joined and remarked how refreshing it is to be able to post an opinion without being flamed.

More to the point, why should it be necessary to engage in personal attacks? It doesn't advance the discussion, it leads to further attacks and derails threads, and it turns off potential members who want someplace they can go to and engage in discussions.

I've stated it so many times it's practically become my mantra - attack the post, not the poster. Meaning, if you don't agree with the opinion, point out why it is wrong. Pretty simple.

And as for whether zE bOp's violation was less egregious than others that haven't resulted in any penalties, I'm unaware of any. We try to read every post every day - but inevitably we'll miss some; that's particularly true in the Official Game Day Discussion threads - there's simply too many posts to monitor all of them, not all the Mods are present all the time (particularly when some of us are lucky enough to attend the game), and sometimes we have to take bathroom breaks or simply want to watch the game on TV. That's why there is a "Report This Post" button. I may be wrong, but I'd be willing to venture that most members would opine that we manage to react to almost all violations - we certainly have done so enough that everyone seems to be willing to follow the rules.

In addition, we do practice discretion. A lot depends on the nature of the attack - if, in the opinion of the Mods the attack looks as if it's likely to cause a flame war, we'll jump on that faster than we will others. Have we missed some? Yes, without a doubt. We're certainly not perfect.

 
This is a good GBR web I can say. I been on lot of other team web"s and mostly had bad time which you can know when you are from a nother team. I rember a got one email from a MOD or ADMIN after first couple day and told me and PinkleTime to calm down or some thing but it mostly work out find.

I don"t say I know all rule of this web but you don"t need to be brian surgery to know when you"re try to piss in some one boot, you know?

TuffTiger

COlumbia,MU.

 
I like the no nonsense approach taken by the board as it keeps the B.S. down to a minimum and people seem to like that compared to other boards. JMO

 
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