Subbing in Tommy Armstrong this year?

[Hammerhead]

TA can get reps when we have a comfortable lead.

Rembering the Cody Green one first half series experiment three years ago and his fumble inside the 10 yard line of the washington game.

Cody Green was terrible. Hopefully Tommy Armstrong isn't.

That said, unless Taylor completely forgot how to play football during the offseason, keep him in there until the game's out of reach.

 

[Minnesota_husker]

It wont be meaningful time. If he is in, we are up big and he is handing it off.

 

[Enhance]

I'd just like to see the coaches get ALL of the backups in the game for a little bit of extra PT. They wait far too long, historically, to put the subs in during blowouts.

I've seen this argument made before, but I really don't see any difference in the way we do things and the way other teams do things. We barely feel safe with some of our starters let alone getting the back-ups some PT.

In regards to TA, I'm a firm believer that Martinez is your starter and he gets the snaps. The only reason you take him out is because he's injured or the game is out of hand. We're not in a position to risk anything this year because of the defense, and Armstrong will have his chance to play one day.

 

[The Dude]

Just because Cody Green sh#t the bed when he was tested doesn't mean we should stop testing our QBs.

This is the first year in a long time we have what is supposed to be a legitimate backup. It would be nice to see what we have in him in a game situation. And when I say a game situation I don't mean against FCS back ups. He gets tougher competition in practice. And I don't mean putting Taylor on the bench during the first quarter and letting Tommy finish out the game. I mean give Tommy a series during a non-con game or two when it's still a game.

But if our team is bad enough that giving him a series against Southern Miss or Wyoming might cost us a game, then sure, we have to keep Martinez in there. But I'm surprised that would even be a concern on a sunshiny board like this.

 

[Danimal]

Kellogg did get thrown in there semi-early against Montana State last year. If we have at-least a two-td lead and the staff can really sense they have the game in-hand I can see putting Tommy out there for a first-half series.

Big guy I want to see out of easier games early is Thad Randle. He needs to stay healthy and the other guys REALLY need reps

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

I think he is going to get a lot of reps in the preseason. Does he get reps during conference play? Would you put him in for a series even if it is a one score game early in the 1st or 2nd Half?

WORKED FOR ME!

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[Saunders]

Nobody does this when they have a clear #1 QB.

 

[Mavric]

Ran across an article from a couple weeks ago where Coach Fisher said he "didn't think we would ever risk losing a game to get somebody reps." But he hopes we'll be in a position to get TA in towards the end of games.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

He should get some good reps vs Wyoming, Southern Miss, and South Dakota St.

We also should have had these same leads against non conference and conference games last year. Until we can prove that we can have a decent defense and an offense that doesn't produce turnovers, I don't see Armstrong getting any reps.

 

[NUance]

Just because Cody Green sh#t the bed when he was tested doesn't mean we should stop testing our QBs.

This is the first year in a long time we have what is supposed to be a legitimate backup. It would be nice to see what we have in him in a game situation. And when I say a game situation I don't mean against FCS back ups. He gets tougher competition in practice. And I don't mean putting Taylor on the bench during the first quarter and letting Tommy finish out the game. I mean give Tommy a series during a non-con game or two when it's still a game.

But if our team is bad enough that giving him a series against Southern Miss or Wyoming might cost us a game, then sure, we have to keep Martinez in there. But I'm surprised that would even be a concern on a sunshiny board like this.

This. It doesn't cost us that much to put the #2 in if we do it right. Beck would be on the sideline with Taylor pointing things out to him that he wants to key on. And queuing up plays for the next series. Plus, we wouldn't be starting at ground zero with next year's QB if he had gets decent PT this year. I think meaningful snaps for the #2 help far more than they hurt us. I guess I'm in the minority on this.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Just because Cody Green sh#t the bed when he was tested doesn't mean we should stop testing our QBs.

This is the first year in a long time we have what is supposed to be a legitimate backup. It would be nice to see what we have in him in a game situation. And when I say a game situation I don't mean against FCS back ups. He gets tougher competition in practice. And I don't mean putting Taylor on the bench during the first quarter and letting Tommy finish out the game. I mean give Tommy a series during a non-con game or two when it's still a game.

But if our team is bad enough that giving him a series against Southern Miss or Wyoming might cost us a game, then sure, we have to keep Martinez in there. But I'm surprised that would even be a concern on a sunshiny board like this.

This. It doesn't cost us that much to put the #2 in if we do it right. Beck would be on the sideline with Taylor pointing things out to him that he wants to key on. And queuing up plays for the next series. Plus, we wouldn't be starting at ground zero with next year's QB if he had gets decent PT this year. I think meaningful snaps for the #2 help far more than they hurt us. I guess I'm in the minority on this.

I with ya, I don't see the downfall of playing Armstrong as much as we can. He is the future, and it would be a comforting change if our new starter stepped into the role with some seasoning....

 

[VA Husker Fan]

A lot will depend on how Armstrong does in practice. If he's not working hard and grasping the system, Bo won't even give him much garbage time, or it will be very vanilla.

 

[Landlord]

For the record, Watson and Bo tried the "get Cody Green some snaps" experiment in 2010 at the advisement of Tom Osborne.

Regardless, I still think it's a bad idea.

 

[kchusker_chris]

I don't really care when he gets in there, so long as they are meaningful snaps. Lately it seems like when Carnes or someone would enter the game it would be 1 pass an 8 designed runs up the middle. If that's all we're going to do, might as well leave Taylor in there. It's doing little to no good. Gotta get the backups RBs reps too...but at least make it realistic.

There are what, 10-12 series a game maybe? TA should get 6 against Wyoming, 4 against Southern Miss, 4 against SD, 1-2 against Illini, 1-2 against Purdue, 2 against Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 more throughout the season. That's around 20 series (assuming Taylor isn't chasing the Heisman). As long as he doesn't have some stat line like 8-15, 45yrds. 3 rush attempts for 12 yards. 95 handoffs to our backup RBs...i'll be fine.

 

[Saunders]

I don't really care when he gets in there, so long as they are meaningful snaps. Lately it seems like when Carnes or someone would enter the game it would be 1 pass an 8 designed runs up the middle. If that's all we're going to do, might as well leave Taylor in there. It's doing little to no good. Gotta get the backups RBs reps too...but at least make it realistic.

There are what, 10-12 series a game maybe? TA should get 6 against Wyoming, 4 against Southern Miss, 4 against SD, 1-2 against Illini, 1-2 against Purdue, 2 against Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 more throughout the season. That's around 20 series (assuming Taylor isn't chasing the Heisman). As long as he doesn't have some stat line like 8-15, 45yrds. 3 rush attempts for 12 yards. 95 handoffs to our backup RBs...i'll be fine.

Much of that depends if the Offense can get a decent lead, and the defense can hold the other team down. I'm all for getting the backups work, but not at the expense of winning a game. For instance, last year, our backups threw 4 less passes than Alabama's. It's just something that's not done very much.