exact opposite actually <_<The same people that complain about spelling and grammar on here are the same guys during the game who call us whipper snappers and tell us to sit down.
If I had a nickel for every time I said that...I had 5 minutes in between classes to whip that out.
We'll have some answers in 11 days.
sorry I just love being a grammar nazi![]()
sorry, I just had to release my frustration on somebody dedhoarsesorry I just love being a grammar nazi![]()
thanks for having a sense of humor husker4. :thumbs my respect for you went up
sorry, I just had to release my frustration on somebody dedhoarsesorry I just love being a grammar nazi![]()
thanks for having a sense of humor husker4. :thumbs my respect for you went up
If I had a nickel for every time I said that...I had 5 minutes in between classes to whip that out.
We'll have some answers in 11 days.
whoa... a post about the actual thread.. thanks.
I agree. the scary thing about the season is that so much depends on bo IMO. while he has SAID all of the right things, and is a very good D coordinator, we don't know how he will handle the transition to HC. Billy boy didn't do so well. I am counting on him being above average, and thus the 7 wins. but if he isn't... we could be looking at another losing season. you know and it might take time for bo to learn stuff. we could have a losing season and B o sill turn out OK. its a tough situation
1.) You believe this based upon....?We'll have some answers in 11 days.
whoa... a post about the actual thread.. thanks.
I agree. the scary thing about the season is that so much depends on bo IMO. while he has SAID all of the right things, and is a very good D coordinator, we don't know how he will handle the transition to HC. Billy boy didn't do so well. I am counting on him being above average, and thus the 7 wins. but if he isn't... we could be looking at another losing season. you know and it might take time for bo to learn stuff. we could have a losing season and B o sill turn out OK. its a tough situation
Melscott:
I'll answer the thread content head on. First, I agree that 7 wins is what to expect --- and that 6 wins is not that unlikely. That said, I am not convinced that NU has that much talent. Of course relativistic measurements are best when such a statement is made. I'd say that OU, TT, Texas and Missouri almost certainly have more talent (better combination of accross the board size, strength, speed, quickness = athleticism which is coupled with developed football skill). Also, the top 3-5 of every major conference in the nation would also have more talent than NU. That is, at least 20 or so programs have superior talent compared to NU. There is likely an equal number of programs now --- say 20 or so --- that are comparable in talent (TA&M, Colorado, Kansas among them). So, NU has, most likely #30 or so in talent, or there abouts. If anything, this assessment is granting NU more than it is due --- I'm probably over estimating the talent some. Given our schedule with Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Texas Tech, and VT, we play six teams with better (or at the very least comparable talent) --- that is tough.
So, if we do win just seven games I'd not say it was coaching but rather our talent level that is the limiting factor.
It is true that problems with conditioning, heart, preparation, scheme and lack of confidence were all contributers to the carnage of last season. Most all of that should be fixed (except the lack of confidence --- I don't care what anyone says, the devastation of last year doe matter this year, the confidence lost will have lasting effects). Pelini and crew will address this all. But.... he is limited with this group of players.
Hopefully he can get these kids to over-achieve so that hope is restored and so that recruits will be more prone to go to NU. That said, until such happens, not much will change --- no matter how good the coaching, mid-conferecne to upper mid-conference standing is all one can expect.
We'll have some answers in 11 days.
whoa... a post about the actual thread.. thanks.
I agree. the scary thing about the season is that so much depends on bo IMO. while he has SAID all of the right things, and is a very good D coordinator, we don't know how he will handle the transition to HC. Billy boy didn't do so well. I am counting on him being above average, and thus the 7 wins. but if he isn't... we could be looking at another losing season. you know and it might take time for bo to learn stuff. we could have a losing season and B o sill turn out OK. its a tough situation
Melscott:
I'll answer the thread content head on. First, I agree that 7 wins is what to expect --- and that 6 wins is not that unlikely. That said, I am not convinced that NU has that much talent. Of course relativistic measurements are best when such a statement is made. I'd say that OU, TT, Texas and Missouri almost certainly have more talent (better combination of accross the board size, strength, speed, quickness = athleticism which is coupled with developed football skill). Also, the top 3-5 of every major conference in the nation would also have more talent than NU. That is, at least 20 or so programs have superior talent compared to NU. There is likely an equal number of programs now --- say 20 or so --- that are comparable in talent (TA&M, Colorado, Kansas among them). So, NU has, most likely #30 or so in talent, or there abouts. If anything, this assessment is granting NU more than it is due --- I'm probably over estimating the talent some. Given our schedule with Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Texas Tech, and VT, we play six teams with better (or at the very least comparable talent) --- that is tough.
So, if we do win just seven games I'd not say it was coaching but rather our talent level that is the limiting factor.
It is true that problems with conditioning, heart, preparation, scheme and lack of confidence were all contributers to the carnage of last season. Most all of that should be fixed (except the lack of confidence --- I don't care what anyone says, the devastation of last year doe matter this year, the confidence lost will have lasting effects). Pelini and crew will address this all. But.... he is limited with this group of players.
Hopefully he can get these kids to over-achieve so that hope is restored and so that recruits will be more prone to go to NU. That said, until such happens, not much will change --- no matter how good the coaching, mid-conferecne to upper mid-conference standing is all one can expect.
I couldn't have said it better myself. If I had been in the players' position last year and the coaches kept putting me 10 yds out of position and not making any adjustments, why keep busting my a$$ when the coaches kept blaming the players. WE HAVE TALENT. Lets see what happens this year now that we know that fundamentals and the little things are being taught again, plus schemes that have worked against the best teams in the country."Quitters are always quitters like night always follows day? What's broken today can't be fixed tomorrow? You may be right about the talent level. It should be abundantly clear come the middle of October. But as many have said, this isn't Bo Pelini's first rodeo. It isn't his first time taking the hand of a defensive unit that lacked belief in itself. You don't have to be a homer, but the coaches seem to disagree with your assessment."
:yeah
Remember how it felt to see USC take apart our Dline on national T.V.? Or OSU merrily parading around memorial stadium like they owned it? The mass exodus of "the greatest fans in college football"? Beating KSt by 42, only to drop a turd against CU?
Imagine how you would feel if you where a part of it? Of course they quite! We had quite on them!
An adjustment back to fundamental football will do wonders for this team. The talent is there it's up to these coaches to pull it out of them. (and us to support them)
Let the naysayers say what they want, I'm just ready for some college football; where anything can happen!
1.) You believe this based upon....?We'll have some answers in 11 days.
whoa... a post about the actual thread.. thanks.
I agree. the scary thing about the season is that so much depends on bo IMO. while he has SAID all of the right things, and is a very good D coordinator, we don't know how he will handle the transition to HC. Billy boy didn't do so well. I am counting on him being above average, and thus the 7 wins. but if he isn't... we could be looking at another losing season. you know and it might take time for bo to learn stuff. we could have a losing season and B o sill turn out OK. its a tough situation
Melscott:
I'll answer the thread content head on. First, I agree that 7 wins is what to expect --- and that 6 wins is not that unlikely. That said, I am not convinced that NU has that much talent. Of course relativistic measurements are best when such a statement is made. I'd say that OU, TT, Texas and Missouri almost certainly have more talent (better combination of accross the board size, strength, speed, quickness = athleticism which is coupled with developed football skill). Also, the top 3-5 of every major conference in the nation would also have more talent than NU. That is, at least 20 or so programs have superior talent compared to NU. There is likely an equal number of programs now --- say 20 or so --- that are comparable in talent (TA&M, Colorado, Kansas among them). So, NU has, most likely #30 or so in talent, or there abouts. If anything, this assessment is granting NU more than it is due --- I'm probably over estimating the talent some. Given our schedule with Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Texas Tech, and VT, we play six teams with better (or at the very least comparable talent) --- that is tough.
So, if we do win just seven games I'd not say it was coaching but rather our talent level that is the limiting factor.
It is true that problems with conditioning, heart, preparation, scheme and lack of confidence were all contributers to the carnage of last season. Most all of that should be fixed (except the lack of confidence --- I don't care what anyone says, the devastation of last year doe matter this year, the confidence lost will have lasting effects). Pelini and crew will address this all. But.... he is limited with this group of players.
Hopefully he can get these kids to over-achieve so that hope is restored and so that recruits will be more prone to go to NU. That said, until such happens, not much will change --- no matter how good the coaching, mid-conferecne to upper mid-conference standing is all one can expect.
2.) Those five things you mentioned as contributing factors to the 2007 season is comparable to saying that Nazi Germany's problems with manpower, inferior technology, a dual-front war, garrisoning Italy, and an unreasonable dictator without a doubt contributed to its defeat. What, exactly, is left to talk about? Bad coaching masks good talent. I see no way for you to make a statement about the overall talent level of this team because you have nothing to go on. Quitters are always quitters like night always follows day? What's broken today can't be fixed tomorrow? You may be right about the talent level. It should be abundantly clear come the middle of October. But as many have said, this isn't Bo Pelini's first rodeo. It isn't his first time taking the hand of a defensive unit that lacked belief in itself. You don't have to be a homer, but the coaches seem to disagree with your assessment.