Taylor Martinez Sports Science

[Lyons in the Sea of Red.]

Cant find the article, but Bo said that Taylor was going to be very limited in the spring game because he re tweeked his ankle, they were even thinking about holding him out. Some guys are putting way to much stock into his spring game performance, he was very limited. That along with the limited play calling on offense gave you his performance. Lets hope he completely heals this summer and comes back strong in the fall, no pick up basketball taylor....rehab that ankle.

Funny that you say pickup basketball, I play with guys all the time at the rec and just think to myself, man if you got hurt playing this, we would be boned.

 

[HuskerFowler]

"Today, they (coaches) just limited me just because on cuts, I can feel it," he said. "And they need me to be 100 percent in the fall."

found a little quote from taylor

 

[CornHOLIO]

How exactly do you rehab a "turf-toe" injury?

I had a patella tendon tear on my knee that took two years to get back..The most effective thing I did was bicycling..but what are they doing now days for TT?

Make him sleep with a Tens Unit?

 

[knapplc]

Don't they use stim for turf toe?

EDIT: Heh - you edited that before I could hit reply. I don't know if he sleeps with it, but yes, that's one way they treat it.

 

[Hercules]

I don't think Taylor's healthy yet - I don't think the coaches treated him as carefully this spring as they treated Rex. With Rex, they know he's going to get the offense, that he knows what he's doing, and they trust him. With Taylor, they know he still needs as many reps as he can get, especially with installing a new offense. I think they were willing to push him through spring practice even if it meant delaying the healing process a little bit. Now is the time for him to rest, get healthy, and work on the mental aspects of the game.

 

[Hunter94]

Taylor has flaws in his motion, his base and his accuracy. Yes, he had a ton of yards in High School and he had a great day against OSU, but he's also made some mind-numbingly bad decisions with the football. Taylor's biggest problems are fundamental - what to do and when to do it, and mechanical - arm slot, footwork, etc.

Everything wrong with Taylor mechanically is fixable. Mentally it's a matter of reps, experience and discipline. The thing is, he's never going to turn into Graham Harrell, that's just not who/what he is. But we don't need him to be that guy, we just need him to be a net positive in the passing game. Taylor's game is running, and that's the future of this offense.

While everything wrong with Taylor mechanically is fixable, we have zero evidence that any of the mechanical problems are, in fact, even being addressed. We have no evidence that these problems are being fixed. There is no evidence of improvement in footwork, follow-through, arm motion, use of his hips... anything.

And for the poster above re: Taylor regaining his quickness or speed. So far, so no.... In the spring game he did not appear hyper quick or hyper fast. In fact, he did not appear to have progressed any from when he averaged under 2 yards per carry the 2nd half of last season. In the spring game, he again averaged under 2 yards per carry.

Knapp... you are correct, without passing improvement or getting his quicks back (and, so far, there is no indication that either is even moving in the right direction), TMart becomes rather... pedestrian. Or worse.

surely he could get to some type of qb camp for fundamentals this summer? for me, his inability to throw the long ball and stretch the field is a problem as well...

 

[Hunter94]

I don't think Taylor's healthy yet - I don't think the coaches treated him as carefully this spring as they treated Rex. With Rex, they know he's going to get the offense, that he knows what he's doing, and they trust him. With Taylor, they know he still needs as many reps as he can get, especially with installing a new offense. I think they were willing to push him through spring practice even if it meant delaying the healing process a little bit. Now is the time for him to rest, get healthy, and work on the mental aspects of the game.

he will need a lot of help this summer with mental and mechanical aspects of being a competent thrower...the question is, will he get the help?? you have to work on it to get better.

 

[knapplc]

he will need a lot of help this summer with mental and mechanical aspects of being a competent thrower...the question is, will he get the help?? you have to work on it to get better.

Out of curiosity, why do you think he wouldn't?

And the myth of Taylor being a BAD passer is just that, a myth. He does NOT look pretty throwing the ball, and he's had bad games, but overall he's a decent passer. LINK

 

[AJ32]

I have seen several people predict that Taylor gets hurt. What kind of crystal ball do you have that you can foresee injuries?

I hurt my ankle pretty bad playing basketball almost 8 years ago. I must have tweaked it when I was walking to class yesterday, because it was hurting me to the point where I was limping for a while. Ankle injuries are something that can stay with you for a long time.

I can't imagine Martinez's ankle standing up to the kind of stress football entails; making cuts, twisting when getting tackled, etc. Most people fail to realize the lingering effects of ankle injuries, once its been injured, its much more likely to become re-injured.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I just hope if he is our starting QB come fall that he is 100% healed. I'll be behind him if he's our starter, kid has some wheels, just hope mentally this didn't screw him up.

 

[knapplc]

I have seen several people predict that Taylor gets hurt. What kind of crystal ball do you have that you can foresee injuries?

I hurt my ankle pretty bad playing basketball almost 8 years ago. I must have tweaked it when I was walking to class yesterday, because it was hurting me to the point where I was limping for a while. Ankle injuries are something that can stay with you for a long time.

I can't imagine Martinez's ankle standing up to the kind of stress football entails; making cuts, twisting when getting tackled, etc. Most people fail to realize the lingering effects of ankle injuries, once its been injured, its much more likely to become re-injured.

While I'm sure that's very interesting, your anecdotal experience does not mean Taylor Martinez will re-injure his ankle.

 

[AJ32]

I have seen several people predict that Taylor gets hurt. What kind of crystal ball do you have that you can foresee injuries?

I hurt my ankle pretty bad playing basketball almost 8 years ago. I must have tweaked it when I was walking to class yesterday, because it was hurting me to the point where I was limping for a while. Ankle injuries are something that can stay with you for a long time.

I can't imagine Martinez's ankle standing up to the kind of stress football entails; making cuts, twisting when getting tackled, etc. Most people fail to realize the lingering effects of ankle injuries, once its been injured, its much more likely to become re-injured.

While I'm sure that's very interesting, your anecdotal experience does not mean Taylor Martinez will re-injure his ankle.

I was attempting to show that even with months of rehab and time, it is still extremely difficult to get back to pre-injury health.

 

[typ3kal]

How exactly do you rehab a "turf-toe" injury?

I had a patella tendon tear on my knee that took two years to get back..The most effective thing I did was bicycling..but what are they doing now days for TT?

Make him sleep with a Tens Unit?

You can ultra sound / stim it with a few corticosteroids to reduce the swelling. Normally they just immobilize the toes / front foot. A lot of times they will put you in the pool for a good 2-3 months and then on an elliptical so that you aren't pushing off with your toe.

Turf toe strains the ligaments on the ball of your foot so you can't push off. Your only real option then is to give it time and not push off.

A really popular rehab for it is so have people do things with their toes since you are not supposed to stretch them back. This normally means picking up junk with your toes. pencils / marbles / scrunching towels etc.

 

[knapplc]

I have seen several people predict that Taylor gets hurt. What kind of crystal ball do you have that you can foresee injuries?

I hurt my ankle pretty bad playing basketball almost 8 years ago. I must have tweaked it when I was walking to class yesterday, because it was hurting me to the point where I was limping for a while. Ankle injuries are something that can stay with you for a long time.

I can't imagine Martinez's ankle standing up to the kind of stress football entails; making cuts, twisting when getting tackled, etc. Most people fail to realize the lingering effects of ankle injuries, once its been injured, its much more likely to become re-injured.

While I'm sure that's very interesting, your anecdotal experience does not mean Taylor Martinez will re-injure his ankle.

I was attempting to show that even with months of rehab and time, it is still extremely difficult to get back to pre-injury health.

Understood, but it still does not mean Taylor Martinez will re-injure his ankle.

 

[bball_backer]

I have seen several people predict that Taylor gets hurt. What kind of crystal ball do you have that you can foresee injuries?

I hurt my ankle pretty bad playing basketball almost 8 years ago. I must have tweaked it when I was walking to class yesterday, because it was hurting me to the point where I was limping for a while. Ankle injuries are something that can stay with you for a long time.

I can't imagine Martinez's ankle standing up to the kind of stress football entails; making cuts, twisting when getting tackled, etc. Most people fail to realize the lingering effects of ankle injuries, once its been injured, its much more likely to become re-injured.

Do you have any idea how many athletes have tweaked an ankle and come back from it in just the last 12 months alone? It happens all the time. People talk about Taylor recovering from this ankle thing like it's a complete long shot and will probably never happen... EVERY athlete hurts an ankle at some point. Many have hurt their ankles WORSE than Taylor and went on to have successful careers with no or limited lingering effects. He hurt his ankle, couldn't heal cause he was playing every week, took a couple months off, got quite a bit better, now he'll take a few more months off and be fine. He's not sitting on a couch all day, he's not going to "tweak" it walking to class.