Taylor Martinez throwing motion

[redblooded]

The only reason it really bothers me is he has to heave the thing strait up in the air like a 10 year old to throw deep and receivers have to wait on it. If he knew how to throw correctly instead of skying the ball he'd probably be able to throw it 20 yards deeper, with more accuracy, and the same effort.

but whatevs if it works for him so be it.

 

[Kruzu]

haha... man those were the lamest "games" ever... (I'm assuming that's one of those motorized fields where the players moved randomly).

Dude the players on my electric set had an adjustable wheel on the bottom. With this I could choreograph exquisite plays of at least two inches.

 

[3rd and long]

Ya know there are times when Taylor drops back to throw and winds up to chuck it deep and all I can think about is Lamar Latrell and Revenge of the Nerds

Maybe we need to hire Wormser as our QB coach, he is an expert in aerodynamics you know :ahhhhhhhh

 

[Nebula]

He can throw the ball in the air and head-butt it to a receiver for all I care, as long as it gets there. (Funny graph, though.)

My main deal with Taylor in the passing game is that he never seems to go through any progressions. It's one receiver, wait, and if that ain't there he's ready to tuck and run right now. If I could run like that, I'd probably want to tuck it and go pretty quick, too. But I'd love to see him drop back, look left, then look to at least another route before bailing. A huge part of that comes down to the time the line gives him, of course.

 

[scarletNcream]

I guess I don't get it. If T-Mart had better mechanics, his cannon would become a howitzer and he would learn touch. When he drops his elbow, looks up and throws from his back foot, Husker Nation collectively holds their breath and waits. All Beck needs to do is correct minor flaws in the way he throws. Elbow to shoulder position and quit leaning back ( like the change I made from water skiing to snow skiing) His release would increase and with his height, he would get it over most linebackers (because his throw would start 6" higher). I think we need a hardcore, hard noise quarterback coach that will help him with muscle memory. Once you get it, it comes easy.

 

[knapplc]

Taylor's motion cannot be improved. I will not have a Husker QB with a standard, technically sound throwing motion. I'm a Brazilian years old and i don't remember any quarterbacks with "normal" throwing motions. Joey Ganz and Zac Taylor are probably the two closest to "normal," and even they could be counted on for odd mechanics now and then.

If Taylor threw "normally" we'd have one less thing to talk about. Think about it.

 

[okaive]

Your right Napp, because all I want to do is talk more about interceptions.

 

[knapplc]

Your right Napp, because all I want to do is talk more about interceptions.

Interceptions are a product of decision-making more than mechanics.

 

[3rd and long]

Your right Napp, because all I want to do is talk more about interceptions.

Interceptions are a product of decision-making more than mechanics.

But mechanics can do make a big difference, thats why the NFL tries to work over many young QBs. Why not attempt to make them better.

And as to Husker QB's with good mechanics, remember Vince Feraggamo and David Humm, they both threw it beautifully.

 

[carlfense]

I think some people are taking this thread too seriously. I posted the chart because I thought it was hilarious. That's about it . . .

 

[knapplc]

Your right Napp, because all I want to do is talk more about interceptions.

Interceptions are a product of decision-making more than mechanics.

But mechanics can do make a big difference, thats why the NFL tries to work over many young QBs. Why not attempt to make them better.

And as to Husker QB's with good mechanics, remember Vince Feraggamo and David Humm, they both threw it beautifully.

Interceptions are almost always a result of a mis-read coverage or a poor decision to force a ball. Improved mechanics won't help Taylor throw fewer interceptions when he doesn't see the LB dropping into coverage, or when he ignores open receivers and throws the ball into double coverage. Of the two, mechanics and decision-making, the latter is the most important to fix. Even Peyton Manning throws INTs, and he'll be the first to tell you the reason they happen is he made a poor decision, not because his throwing motion was off.

Vince Ferragamo and Dave Humm played in an era when Nebraska ran a Pro-style offense. We don't run that offense anymore, and we're not going to get another Ferragamo or Humm while running this offense - nor do we want one.

 

[The Maudfather]

Taylor's mechanics are some of the poorest I've seen in division one football. He has a really good drop, but when he plants his back foot and goes to step into his throw, that's where the problem starts. Instead of taking a nice, full plant step forward and turning his hips, he takes about a half step left "opening up" his throw and using mostly shoulder. It's comparable to a poor baseball swing, really. It's like a right handed batter taking a step with his left foot toward third base before swinging at every pitch.... it takes away his power and causes him to use almost all shoulders and arms. If you watch a guy like Tom Brady, who had damn good mechanics, you'll see that his feet are much farther apart than Taylor's when he releases the ball and that they are more often than not, parallel. Combine Taylor's bad footwork with his side arm sling and it doesn't look too pretty back there. Keep in mind, I'm not dogging on Taylor...if he could consistently throw a good ball underhand, I'd be happy. Like pointed out above, you can somewhat get away with poor mechanics at this level of football (see Tim Tebow's weird baseball windup), so there is hope for Taylor's throwing ability. Here's a few shots of his mechanics.

 

[knapplc]

That's a good series of photos, Maudfather. His motion really is ugly to look at, and most anyone who knows what it should look like just cringes. Almost every time he throws I roll my eyes, or just sigh.

I thought he was going to work with a passing specialist in California during his off time this summer? If he did, I don't think the instruction "took."

 

[IvabigN]

That's a good series of photos, Maudfather. His motion really is ugly to look at, and most anyone who knows what it should look like just cringes. Almost every time he throws I roll my eyes, or just sigh.

I thought he was going to work with a passing specialist in California during his off time this summer? If he did, I don't think the instruction "took."

He did and Johnson "teaches" the long air-ball throw- when the safety is up on man coverage throw a rainbow

 

[Enhance]

I just hope Taylor can improve his decision-making. Bad mechanics are something you can get away with at this level - even win championships with. But bad decisions will kill your team faster than anything else.

He's got a long way to go on the decision-making side, but if that part of his game continues to improve along with his management skills (which we can see definite improvement in), then there's hope for him. But that INT he threw to the Fresno LB, and the near-INT he threw in the end zone against Washington were definite WTH moments.

Exactly, which is why I'm not worried about. Plenty of talented college quarterbacks didn't have great mechanics - they were just safe with the ball and made good decisions. And as you said, at this level quarterbacks can get away with it.