Terry Joseph articles in OWH & LJS

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Thought this comment was interesting from LJS:

He sees talent.
"The biggest thing I noticed is that we're a lot bigger and more athletic than we were at Tennessee," he said.

Joseph feeling at home leading Husker secondary
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Another interesting comment from OWH:

Junior cornerbacks Andrew Green and Ciante Evans said the Huskers are now getting to know Joseph. Green called him a good teacher who's big on discipline. Evans said his style is similar to Raymond's, but he's more like Sanders in how he wants some technical things done.
Joseph making secondary his own
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"The biggest thing I noticed is that we're a lot bigger and more athletic than we were at Tennessee," he said.

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Now there's a crowd pleaser!​


 
I like the "more like Sanders" quote. I really missed the physical play early on from the Husker DB's last year. Youth might have been a part, but Fonzie and Evans pre-season comments were telling. I really am still unsure if Raymond was a "good fit" with Bo and Co. Even Carl, mid season, commented they wanted more physical play from the DB's. Even this season, look our our DB's. Bo has big guys built to play physical at the line.

 
We undoubtedly needed it. The trouble was the guys were too inexperienced and young (as they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!) and they got flat abused in press coverage. I think that's why we played musical chairs at the position for a while, with bigger bodies like SJB and Corey Cooper just getting thrust into roles.

It's a big credit to Andrew Green that he started to develop some of that physical style by the end of the year (an area where he was beat horribly early on in the year). He is the only guy of the ones returning I think, that we can really count on. We'll be leaning heavily on him this year. The rest are going to make big leaps that they have not yet.

 
zoogies said:
they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!
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It's the fault of the seniors who were too good to be taken off the field, and the guys behind them not earning the playing time in practice in the first place. Fans would be pissed if we pulled guys like Prince and Dennard just for the sake of getting other guys playing time. I don't understand why people keep saying this to defend Raymond. Raymond had hard enough time developing his starters, I really doubt he developed any depth himself.

 
I listened to sports nightly last night and McKewon deeply hinted at what a lot of us were already suspecting, that it's pretty obvious Joseph is who Bo wanted a year ago, and that Raymond may have been a temporary hire from day one to fill the gap between Sanders and Joseph. Hence all the chatter that Bo really pushed Raymond towards LSU.

 
The Dude said:
zoogies said:
they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!
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It's the fault of the seniors who were too good to be taken off the field, and the guys behind them not earning the playing time in practice in the first place. Fans would be pissed if we pulled guys like Prince and Dennard just for the sake of getting other guys playing time. I don't understand why people keep saying this to defend Raymond. Raymond had hard enough time developing his starters, I really doubt he developed any depth himself.
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1. Raymond had only total inexperience to work with, and that is not his fault. It is also why the young guys struggled.

2. There were for sure opportunities during blowouts or during the OOC patsy part of the schedule to work in some playing time for the younger guys and just have them build up their confidence and learn on the field. Why do young players anywhere play? Not because they are better than the starters, but because you allocate time for them when it's available, to develop.

3. Unless, of course, all of them were so thoroughly bad that they didn't deserve it. Which points to a massive recruiting failure - which is possible - and all that does is leave Sanders blameless in the matter, and it still doesn't put any of the blame on Raymond for what he had to work with.

4. The result of those young guys not having done any growing on the field, whether for good reason or not, is that they had to do that all during the past season.

 
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zoogies said:
The Dude said:
zoogies said:
they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!
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It's the fault of the seniors who were too good to be taken off the field, and the guys behind them not earning the playing time in practice in the first place. Fans would be pissed if we pulled guys like Prince and Dennard just for the sake of getting other guys playing time. I don't understand why people keep saying this to defend Raymond. Raymond had hard enough time developing his starters, I really doubt he developed any depth himself.
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1. Raymond had only total inexperience to work with, and that is not his fault. It is also why the young guys struggled.

2. There were for sure opportunities during blowouts or during the OOC patsy part of the schedule to work in some playing time for the younger guys and just have them build up their confidence and learn on the field. Why do young players anywhere play? Not because they are better than the starters, but because you allocate time for them when it's available, to develop.

3. Unless, of course, all of them were so thoroughly bad that they didn't deserve it. Which points to a massive recruiting failure - which is possible - and all that does is leave Sanders blameless in the matter, and it still doesn't put any of the blame on Raymond for what he had to work with.

4. The result of those young guys not having done any growing on the field, whether for good reason or not, is that they had to do that all during the past season.
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This is an overriding theme of the entire team at all positions. Bo's acknowledged as much - and I expect it to change. But it's not like Evans/Green didn't get onto the field in 2010. Evans played a considerable amount of time in 2010 - it just didn't translated into 2011. As did Osborne. And Smith. That's not on Sanders - that's on Raymond. Injury depleted the position with Green being hobbled early in his career and Blue no longer being a factor. And the Blowouts in 2010? Maybe a 17 point win over KS? A win over Colorado. Some early game...but for the most part 2010 was not exactly a season where games where decided late (either in our favor or against it).

 
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Here's what aspeedlin is talking about if you are like me and don't have fast internet to watch videos:

He's already busy recruiting for Nebraska.

"We're going to grind it out," he said. "I can tell you this: We're going to recruit against them all — the SEC, ACC, the rest of the schools in the Big Ten. We won't back down from anybody. We're going to go out there and recruit aggressively, and that's the only way I know how to."

What's his pitch to a kid from the South?

"When you see it, you won't believe it," Joseph answered.
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I like what I hear.

 
Reading these articles, whether its a reality or not, I don't think we'll have to worry about throwing his boys under the bus, under any circumstance. I like him for recruiting as well, but I also like that he will work with what he has and seems to have his players' backs.

 
zoogies said:
The Dude said:
zoogies said:
they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!
Click to expand...
It's the fault of the seniors who were too good to be taken off the field, and the guys behind them not earning the playing time in practice in the first place. Fans would be pissed if we pulled guys like Prince and Dennard just for the sake of getting other guys playing time. I don't understand why people keep saying this to defend Raymond. Raymond had hard enough time developing his starters, I really doubt he developed any depth himself.
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1. Raymond had only total inexperience to work with, and that is not his fault. It is also why the young guys struggled.

2. There were for sure opportunities during blowouts or during the OOC patsy part of the schedule to work in some playing time for the younger guys and just have them build up their confidence and learn on the field. Why do young players anywhere play? Not because they are better than the starters, but because you allocate time for them when it's available, to develop.

3. Unless, of course, all of them were so thoroughly bad that they didn't deserve it. Which points to a massive recruiting failure - which is possible - and all that does is leave Sanders blameless in the matter, and it still doesn't put any of the blame on Raymond for what he had to work with.

4. The result of those young guys not having done any growing on the field, whether for good reason or not, is that they had to do that all during the past season.
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He had inexperience to work with, mostly because of injuries. That's the key point that nobody really brings up. Sanders left behind 3 starters in Osborne, Dennard, and Cassidy. Evans was a guy who showed great promise when he got his chances, but regressed under Raymond (as did Cassidy).

 
The Dude said:
zoogies said:
The Dude said:
zoogies said:
they almost never got playing time to develop behind the seniors the year before -- whose fault was that?!
Click to expand...
It's the fault of the seniors who were too good to be taken off the field, and the guys behind them not earning the playing time in practice in the first place. Fans would be pissed if we pulled guys like Prince and Dennard just for the sake of getting other guys playing time. I don't understand why people keep saying this to defend Raymond. Raymond had hard enough time developing his starters, I really doubt he developed any depth himself.
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1. Raymond had only total inexperience to work with, and that is not his fault. It is also why the young guys struggled.

2. There were for sure opportunities during blowouts or during the OOC patsy part of the schedule to work in some playing time for the younger guys and just have them build up their confidence and learn on the field. Why do young players anywhere play? Not because they are better than the starters, but because you allocate time for them when it's available, to develop.

3. Unless, of course, all of them were so thoroughly bad that they didn't deserve it. Which points to a massive recruiting failure - which is possible - and all that does is leave Sanders blameless in the matter, and it still doesn't put any of the blame on Raymond for what he had to work with.

4. The result of those young guys not having done any growing on the field, whether for good reason or not, is that they had to do that all during the past season.
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He had inexperience to work with, mostly because of injuries. That's the key point that nobody really brings up. Sanders left behind 3 starters in Osborne, Dennard, and Cassidy. Evans was a guy who showed great promise when he got his chances, but regressed under Raymond (as did Cassidy).
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I also read somewhere that Sanders was more freelance in terms of teaching technique and skill, and focused more on x's and o's and being in the right position and just making plays, where as Raymond was a very technical teacher and was high on techniques and footwork etc. If that was the case, make no mistake that that played a major roll in the regressing of some of these guys, They've been taught one way and now they all sudden have to learn another and focus on little things like footwork and technique and forget about being in the right position and making plays. I'm sure it had to be hard on them.

 
His comment that we have more size and athletic ability than Tennessee is interesting... since he's going out and offering several of the kids he had offered at Tennessee. I wonder if that was more of a political statement or if it meant we have more talented players than Tennessee had... meaning we bring in a lot more players with talent.

I just find it interesting if he thought our guys are bigger and more athletic... why he would extend offers to the guys he was getting at Tennessee that were "smaller" and "less athletic"

 
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