Sizable factions of fans/coaches at AM, Tech not pleased with pro-Texas B12 deal. Saying league should be named "The UT 10"
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1. Texas couldn't lose. It owns the deck. The new Big XII TV contract will help all the other conferences.Gentlemen...it's been a bizarre run over the past week....but what happened here is simple.
1. Texas and the other three really did want to go to the Pac 10. Texas A&M was badly split, leaning toward the SEC.
2. The TV networks (Fox/ESPN) did NOT want to see four large conferences emerge. Why? The cost of college football to them would have gone through the roof. Also, don't be surprised if there was input from the SEC, Notre Dame, and other MAJOR powers, that saw an advantage to keeping a rump Big 12 around. What's the advantage? Big 12 games will wind up on ESPN game plan, and there will be more national TV exposure for SEC, Big 10, etc.
3. So, the TV folks threw money at Texas (and to a lesser extent, the other remaining members) to stay where it is, slamming the door on a major realignment. OU and OSU were tied to Texas. A&M couldn't jump without either Texas or OU coming. The little schools were just thrilled to have a home.
So where does this leave us?
1. Not unexpectedly, Texas will eventually get more money from TV than any other school in the country.
2. Nebraska leaves the shell of the Big 8 (Big 12 north) for greener pastures, will probably wind up paying some kind of out fee to the Big 12. It's better off, easily.
3. Colorado panicked. It now finds itself in the Pac-whatever, but will be hit with a big fee to leave, the kind of hit that a weak athletic program will have a problem with.
As I said last week, follow the money trail. I have to admit, though, I really didn't think it would wind up here. Texas (The University) winds. Texas (the fans) lose.
Nah! The 0.01 was like Texas pouring coffee on the Huskers' crotch. This result is the Huskers winning the lawsuit!! :koolaid2:looks like we got that one second back, and than some.I think that one big reason so many are pizzed right now - one poster even said something like, "Congratulations Nebraska - you finally won". Got a big grin when I saw that one. Another poster or two were very concerned that NU was gonna get a better deal in the long run. (commence evil laugh!)The complete meltdown by Texas fans is amazing. Who could have predicted Texas would actually end up in a worse position and Nebraska in a better one? :laughpound :laughpound :laughpound
They lose in the quality of football that will be played in that palace that sits outside my window. This is a ten-year deal. You'd be wise to bet that the conference champion will be Texas or OU eight of those years. Big 12 lite will be a mediocre academic conference, only one rung above the SEC. I feel like we've been cut off from the rest of the country, and especially from what should have been.Texas fans lose? Do Texans really care what is happening outside of Texas (and maybe OK)?
i don't understand this. how did espn have any influence, and why did it matter what aTm did? i'm not being facetious, i really am just trying to get the story straight.They lose in the quality of football that will be played in that palace that sits outside my window. This is a ten-year deal. You'd be wise to bet that the conference champion will be Texas or OU eight of those years. Big 12 lite will be a mediocre academic conference, only one rung above the SEC. I feel like we've been cut off from the rest of the country, and especially from what should have been.Texas fans lose? Do Texans really care what is happening outside of Texas (and maybe OK)?
You don't get better by playing people who are worse than you.
Basically, A&M's SEC feeler enabled ESPN's deep pockets to short-circuit realignment.
1. This whole shebang revolved around what Texas wanted. The wants and needs of the other schools were secondary, and we know that because at the 11th hour Texas bollixed the deal with the Pac-10, a deal that both sides had worked on for months, by making extra demands that benefitted nobody but Texas.Gentlemen...it's been a bizarre run over the past week....but what happened here is simple.
1. Texas and the other three really did want to go to the Pac 10. Texas A&M was badly split, leaning toward the SEC.
2. The TV networks (Fox/ESPN) did NOT want to see four large conferences emerge. Why? The cost of college football to them would have gone through the roof. Also, don't be surprised if there was input from the SEC, Notre Dame, and other MAJOR powers, that saw an advantage to keeping a rump Big 12 around. What's the advantage? Big 12 games will wind up on ESPN game plan, and there will be more national TV exposure for SEC, Big 10, etc.
3. So, the TV folks threw money at Texas (and to a lesser extent, the other remaining members) to stay where it is, slamming the door on a major realignment. OU and OSU were tied to Texas. A&M couldn't jump without either Texas or OU coming. The little schools were just thrilled to have a home.
So where does this leave us?
1. Not unexpectedly, Texas will eventually get more money from TV than any other school in the country.
2. Nebraska leaves the shell of the Big 8 (Big 12 north) for greener pastures, will probably wind up paying some kind of out fee to the Big 12. It's better off, easily.
3. Colorado panicked. It now finds itself in the Pac-whatever, but will be hit with a big fee to leave, the kind of hit that a weak athletic program will have a problem with.
As I said last week, follow the money trail. I have to admit, though, I really didn't think it would wind up here. Texas (The University) winds. Texas (the fans) lose.
Texas may not realize it but the potential to get screwed is even greater now. If we have 3 undefeated or 3 once defeated teams i don't see how Texas would win considering that the Big 10 and Pac-10 will be perceived stronger than the Big 12. They will find out very quickly how much not having a CCG is gonna hurt them.They lose in the quality of football that will be played in that palace that sits outside my window. This is a ten-year deal. You'd be wise to bet that the conference champion will be Texas or OU eight of those years. Big 12 lite will be a mediocre academic conference, only one rung above the SEC. I feel like we've been cut off from the rest of the country, and especially from what should have been.Texas fans lose? Do Texans really care what is happening outside of Texas (and maybe OK)?
You don't get better by playing people who are worse than you.
Basically, A&M's SEC feeler enabled ESPN's deep pockets to short-circuit realignment.
We could lose to Texas next year and reading this thread again would make it all better.The rest of the Big12 might be happy, but Texas is pissed.
In short, A&M and Texas simply cannot divorce each other. They're like an old married couple. The relationship between the two schools goes back more than 100 years and while they're separate institutions they compete and cooperate on so many levels that were they to split, about half of all social activities in the State of Texas would cease!i don't understand this. how did espn have any influence, and why did it matter what aTm did? i'm not being facetious, i really am just trying to get the story straight.Basically, A&M's SEC feeler enabled ESPN's deep pockets to short-circuit realignment.
Don't mistake Texas for the wizard behind the curtain, because there really hasn't been a curtain for a long time.
Texas may not realize it but the potential to get screwed is even greater now. If we have 3 undefeated or 3 once defeated teams i don't see how Texas would win considering that the Big 10 and Pac-10 will be perceived stronger than the Big 12. They will find out very quickly how much not having a CCG is gonna hurt them.
thank you. i have one more question.... about the bold part, wouldn't tv profits go through the stratosphere? making the through the roof costs worthwhile?In short, A&M and Texas simply cannot divorce each other. They're like an old married couple. The relationship between the two schools goes back more than 100 years and while they're separate institutions they compete and cooperate on so many levels that were they to split, about half of all social activities in the State of Texas would cease!i don't understand this. how did espn have any influence, and why did it matter what aTm did? i'm not being facetious, i really am just trying to get the story straight.Basically, A&M's SEC feeler enabled ESPN's deep pockets to short-circuit realignment.
When A&M made the threat to leave for the SEC, that halted Texas immediately in its tracks. The assumption was that A&M was coming west as well. Yea, right. Like the ultra-conservative Aggies were going to work and play nice with the leftist California schools. That pause by Texas gave the power brokers (not necessarily the conference officials) to convince Disney (ESPN) to overpay to keep the ten remaining members together. The other point about ESPN (and all other media) is that had the Western Conference actually formed, TV costs to the networks would have gone through the roof, quickly.
And I'm going to take this opportunity to urge everyone to read Kirk Bohls column in today's (Wednesday) Austin American Statesman. When a column in Austin contains these words....
...it's worth a look.Don't mistake Texas for the wizard behind the curtain, because there really hasn't been a curtain for a long time.
http://www.statesman.com/sports/we-know-big-12s-teams-are-good-but-749947.html
Yes, I suppose the roof was blown off college football TV contracts some time ago.thank you. i have one more question.... about the bold part, wouldn't tv profits go through the stratosphere? making the through the roof costs worthwhile?