The 2020 Presidential Election - Convention & General Election

Notre Dame Joe said:
Pelosi held it hostage.  She has decided it's more important to make people unhappy through Nov 3rd than get aid to desperate American workers and business owners.
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Of course your spin on this does not surprise me. In fact the only thing that would surprise me is if you actually knew what you were talking about.

The dems/Pelosi have been trying to get a much larger aid packaged passed and are being obstructed by the repubs/Trump. Those darned dems trying to sneak things in the bill to prevent the aid being given to people who don’t need it, large corporations who don’t need it, etc. How conveniently you forget/ignore that the repubs control the executive and the Senate. Duuuuurrr let’s blame the dems, duuuuurrrr.

 
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Notre Dame Joe said:
Pelosi held it hostage.  She has decided it's more important to make people unhappy through Nov 3rd than get aid to desperate American workers and business owners.
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Or maybe -- just maybe -- the Democrats were trying to make sure the aid got to desperate American workers and genuinely struggling business owners rather than the real-estate, retail and petroleum billionaires gaming the system that Trump and the GOP handed them on a silver platter. If anything, the Democrats have gone FAR too easy on these motherf#&%ers. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/30/848321204/how-the-cares-act-became-a-tax-break-bonanza-for-the-rich-explained

 
If Trump were to suddenly die before achieving everything on his agenda, I'd still be willing to honor him by adding his face to the monument at Stone Mountain Georgia. Seriously. The man has earned it.  

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Guy Chamberlin said:
Or maybe -- just maybe -- the Democrats were trying to make sure the aid got to desperate American workers and genuinely struggling business owners rather than the real-estate, retail and petroleum billionaires gaming the system that Trump and the GOP handed them on a silver platter. If anything, the Democrats have gone FAR too easy on these motherf#&%ers. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/30/848321204/how-the-cares-act-became-a-tax-break-bonanza-for-the-rich-explained
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Then again, it should be simple.  There should be one bill and it should be this

Bill One:  Everyone gets 1,200 dollars.  Under 18 gets 500.  

There, now pass it and be done.

Once either side (or both sides) tries adding more s#!t to something that is so simple...they have become the a$$h@!e.

 
teachercd said:
Then again, it should be simple.  There should be one bill and it should be this

Bill One:  Everyone gets 1,200 dollars.  Under 18 gets 500.  

There, now pass it and be done.

Once either side (or both sides) tries adding more s#!t to something that is so simple...they have become the a$$h@!e.
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Fairness and equality aren't the same thing. $20,000 could save a small business. It means nothing to a billionaire. Apparently giant food franchises qualified for billions in Payment Protection, and drained the entire fund before small business could even get to it.

And $1,200 helps people whose rent is $1,200 a month pay their rent for a month. And millions of gainfully employed don't need it.

Put a little thought into it, and a couple trillion dollars might be better spent in places where it's needed. 

Obviously the pork barrel haggling has been going on forever, and there's no dearth of a$$h@!es.  

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Fairness and equality aren't the same thing. $20,000 could save a small business. It means nothing to a billionaire. Apparently giant food franchises qualified for billions in Payment Protection, and drained the entire fund before small business could even get to it.

And $1,200 helps people whose rent is $1,200 a month pay their rent for a month. And millions of gainfully employed don't need it.

Put a little thought into it, and a couple trillion dollars might be better spent in places where it's needed. 

Obviously the pork barrel haggling has been going on forever, and there's no dearth of a$$h@!es.  
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This problem is more pervasive than fast food, too.

I don't think the GOP is wrong to want to make sure businesses get the funds they need, but I think they're incredibly wrong in how they've just shoveled money out and turned a blind eye (or in some cases, facilitated cronyism) in how it is divvied up.

This is super problematic because it both screws smaller family farmers and encourages unhealthy farming practices by the giants at the top of the food chain.


 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Fairness and equality aren't the same thing. $20,000 could save a small business. It means nothing to a billionaire. Apparently giant food franchises qualified for billions in Payment Protection, and drained the entire fund before small business could even get to it.

And $1,200 helps people whose rent is $1,200 a month pay their rent for a month. And millions of gainfully employed don't need it.

Put a little thought into it, and a couple trillion dollars might be better spent in places where it's needed. 

Obviously the pork barrel haggling has been going on forever, and there's no dearth of a$$h@!es.  
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Simple is best.  My Bill is perfect.

Because the alternative...is nothing.

 
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