The 2024 Election —What did we learn?

Guy Chamberlin said:
I love your sassy retorts to points the writer didn't make. 
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The author did try and make that point.  That Dems wrestled away Trump voters to win 2020 by coming up with policies they would find enticing.     Biden won because of Covid.  Not the polices surround Covid, but the fact that Covid was a thing.   Prior to Covid, trump was doing just fine in most polls worth looking at, with a great economy that people were happy with 

 
Archy1221 said:
What are you even talking about.  It seems you are going in circles.   Trump saying no taxes on tips is in line with a general theme of lower taxes.  I don’t agree with singling out one source of income for zero taxes like that though.   But tonsay what the author says about it shows the authors lack of knowledge on the subject. 
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The author knows vastly more on the subject than you do, as evidenced by the writing and reporting. You're pulling a hamstring trying to refute it.

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
The author knows vastly more on the subject than you do, as evidenced by the writing and reporting. You're pulling a hamstring trying to refute it.
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Yeah, but if you take that stance you pretty much have to admit that all "authors" and anyone that does "that job" for a living, knows more than you do on the topic.  Lord knows we don't do that.

I have more experience in education than anyone on this site...yet no one is taking what I say on the topic as gospel.  

What you mean to say but can't (I am the same way) is "Look, I agree with THIS author THIS time so clearly he knows more than you do"

 
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teachercd said:
Yeah, but if you take that stance you pretty much have to admit that all "authors" and anyone that does "that job" for a living, knows more than you do on the topic.  Lord knows we don't do that.

I have more experience in education than anyone on this site...yet no one is taking what I say on the topic as gospel.  

What you mean to say but can't (I am the same way) is "Look, I agree with THIS author THIS time so clearly he knows more than you do"
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I mean to say that most of the time Nicolas Lemann knows vastly more on most subjects than you, me, and Archy combined, and because he does "that job" for a living we should learn from it and say thanks, rather than roll our eyes and pretend we know better. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I mean to say that most of the time Nicolas Lemann knows vastly more on most subjects than you, me, and Archy combined, and because he does "that job" for a living we should learn from it and say thanks, rather than roll our eyes and pretend we know better. 
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Okay!  I agree, experts know more and people NOT in that field should say thanks, listen and accept.  

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
I mean to say that most of the time Nicolas Lemann knows vastly more on most subjects than you, me, and Archy combined, and because he does "that job" for a living we should learn from it and say thanks, rather than roll our eyes and pretend we know better. 
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Because the author writes articles means the author is an expert on whatever he wrote about?!?!  🙄

Jim Cramer has a freaking TV show on investing and people make fortune investing inverse Cramer.   Just as an example.  
 

Yesterday a story re-emerged about the Duke Lacross case and the lady finally admitting she lied.   The author of The Rolling Stones articles on the subject years back was damn sure the author was correct in those “incorrect” articles.  Just as an example.  
 

CNN had soooooo many “experts” on in regards to the 2017-2018 Russia/trump story claiming all these salacious details that ended up not being correct, wrote website articles for CNN that weren’t correct and ended up being confirmed as not correct by internet sleuths who ended up knowing more then those “expert” authors.   Just as an example.   
 

When authors focus on specific subjects for a period of time doing extensive research, like his SAT research, an author can be considered an expert in the subject.  But one must also accept that an expert isn’t beyond reproach or being wrong.  I don’t see how Nick is an expert though on politics elections or the economy based on his prior writings.  

 
We literally go see doctors that have years of schooling and the best grades possible and when they tell you something...one of two things happen.

Either you say you are going to get a second opinion or they tell you to get a second opinion.  

But here we have just a guy that writes for a newspaper (I think that is where that story was from) so he is the expert and no one else knows anything.

I better go reread that Shatel article from when Frost was hired and how Frost would be winning a natty by year 4.  Wonder if that was accurate.  

But it is like I said, if you like what the person says, you think the person is smart.  If you don't like what they say, you think the person is a moron.  

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
I mean to say that most of the time Nicolas Lemann knows vastly more on most subjects than you, me, and Archy combined, and because he does "that job" for a living we should learn from it and say thanks, rather than roll our eyes and pretend we know better. 
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RFK Jr is highly educated, a successful litigation attorney, and has studied vaccines and their effects for decades...

But you call him a moron and don't believe anything he says. 

Maybe this statement shouldn't be the blanket end all, be all.

 
DevoHusker said:
RFK Jr is highly educated, a successful litigation attorney, and has studied vaccines and their effects for decades...

But you call him a moron and don't believe anything he says. 

Maybe this statement shouldn't be the blanket end all, be all.
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His parents paying his way into Harvard to study literature and history and do drugs and then goggling vaccines and causing a bunch of measles deaths does not equal highly educated and studied vaccines. 

 
PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
His parents paying his way into Harvard to study literature and history and do drugs and then goggling vaccines and causing a bunch of measles deaths does not equal highly educated and studied vaccines. 
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Ummm everyone in that family bought their way into college.  Yet many here LOVE JFK and think he was brilliant and an amazing family man...

which well, we all know is not accurate either. 

 
teachercd said:
Ummm everyone in that family bought their way into college.  Yet many here LOVE JFK and think he was brilliant and an amazing family man...

which well, we all know is not accurate either. 
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Haha well that's all definitely true. It's almost like having insane family money means you play with a different set of rules than everyone else. 

JFK for all his faults had charisma and empathy and vision.  RFK just seems to want to make wild claims about stuff he is clearly out of his depth on. As we have seen already it's dangerous to have him making medical decisions for other people. 

 
PasstheDamnBallGuy said:
His parents paying his way into Harvard to study literature and history and do drugs and then goggling vaccines and causing a bunch of measles deaths does not equal highly educated and studied vaccines. 
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Sounds like you are not aware of the fact upticks in measles cases were attributable to illegal/undocumented immigrants.  Not RFK

 
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