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HuskerinSunDiego
Special Teams Player
Need I remind you of Wisconsin (twice), Ohio State, UCLA (twice), Michigan, South Carolina, Washington? Do you realize that TM was 5-8 in his career against ranked teams? Do you know how many ranked teams TM beat on the road? Two.
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Junior
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Was he the only one playing in those games? I'm just curious. Was he the one playing defense?? Did he allow 63 to Ohio State? 70 to Wisconsin? etc etc. Blaming Martinez for the entirety all of those losses is pure stupidity.
HuskerNationNick
All-Conference
So your going to say Taylor was nothing after the Texas Game Freshman year?
2010:
#14 OSU- 23/35 for 323 yards, 19 carries for 112 yards
#6 Missouri- 6/9 for 115 yards, Ankle Injury this game and really was immobile, still won us the biggest game during conference play (excluding CCG)
The rest of this season didn't look good for him, because of that injury, and honestly, he should have never been on the field. Hard to bash on a kid when he played, even when he shouldn't have been due to his injury.
2011: Again, still lingering injury all season, and hindered his performance.
tOSU- 16/22 for 191 yards, 17 carries for 102. (To remind you, this is a game where many of this fan base thought we were going to lose, and the media)
#11 MSU- 7/13 for 80 yards, Again played through an injury and called a great game and adjusted accordingly to the "best" defense in the BIG.
#12 PSU- Stats weren't great, but again, he was injured, and still carried us past a ranked PSU team.
2012- Healthiest Martinez we have seen all year, close to being 100% as he physically could be.
UCLA- 17/31 for 179 yards and 1 INT, 13 carries for 112 yards. We lost this game because of defense. Allowed 653 yards of offense. Hard to blame Tmart.
WI (pt1)- 17/29 181 yards and 0 INT, 13 carries, 107 yards. Underdog and we won.
#22 UM- Stats weren't great, IIRC he was injured midway though the game. 14/24 for 166 yards, 14 carries for 58 yards. We pulled out the W as an underdog.
WI (pt2)- 17/33 for 184 yards, 19 carries for 140 yards. I think we can agree that the defense was the reason we lost this one as well with 640 yards allowed.
2013: Pretty much injured midway through the Wyoming game.
1.5 seasons this kid has been healthy in 4 active years.I fail to see how he disappeared against a higher caliber team, unless you count Nebraska playing him when he was litterally 50% healthy, if that. Had we had a defense in some of those losses, where he did enough where we should have won, there would be a different tune being sung.
TITANIC VS LUSITANIA
Starter
I liked the part about the wrecking ball
NoKoolAidForME
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HuskerRedDread
Walk-on
I agree that Martinez was still a good weapon after the Texas game in 2010 but a couple of the examples you give are slightly flawed as examples to prove that point.
2010 vs Missouri.......Yes he was 6/9 for 112 yards, but that was because he was getting stomped every time he tried to run the ball. He had 12 attempts for 16 yards (1.3 ypc). That game was won because of the amazing performance that Roy Helu was having. The Tigers knew that if they blinked at the wrong time, Helu was running another 60 yard TD. This allow Martinez to dump off or throw some slants in the first half to create a little passing game for the Huskers.
2011....Martinez was healthy enough to play and compete. No need to say he was "lingering" in order to provide an excuse for him not being as explosive as he was early in his freshman season. No injury "hindered" his production. No one is going to have a 874 yard rushing season with a "lingering" injury to their ankle. Martinez's rushing attack was altered in the 2011(& 2012) seasons due to Green/Lee no longer being apart of the roster. Carnes never really got it together between the ears and Kellogg didn't show he was anymore comfortable in 2012. So Martinez practically played with no back up. We needed him healthy.
Also, just like another poster suggested that you can't blame Martinez for many losses vs these rank teams, in that same stance, you can't give him sole credit for the wins either. The game vs MSU in 2011 was won off defense. If you hold a team to 187 yards total, then you win that game more times than not.
And again, Martinez had NO INJURY that kept him from competing at any point of the 2012 season including the Michigan game. If that were the case, he would have been held out of practice or atleast a drill at some point throughout the season, which did no happen.
2013, Martinez was not injure in the Wyo game nor So Miss. TM just wasn't playing with a sense of urgency. Maybe he was thinking ahead to the UCLA game. A game in which he looked forward to playing since he was a freshman as he said before the first meeting in Pasadena the previous year. Martinez came out firing in the UCLA game this season. Showed a level of competitiveness that he did show vs Wyo & So Miss. He had to have been injured or mentally whipped somewhere in the 2nd quarter, because after the last scoring drive, his composure totally changed.
Scratchtown
All-Conference
We are about to have about the closest to that equal in 2015. Gregory, Clinkscales, Valentine, Newell.
kchusker_chris
All-American
If you think Gregory will be here in 2015 you're kidding yourself. And considering we haven't seen 2 of these 4, and the other is yet to live up to his potential I'd say this is a HUGE stretch to even discuss them in the same convo as guys like Crick, Suh and Martin.
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