The fate of the huguenot controversy

huskrinmissouri

huskrinmissouri

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This post has pretty much nothing to do with the topic line, but I figured the tag line might at least spark your interest.

Like many others, I'm more of a lurker, but I post once in a blue moon. I do have a gripe though, but not about the UCLA game, but a new rule that I heard about within that game. I don't know if anyone else has brought this up.

Can someone explain how it would be possible to ever recover an onside kick with the new rule? It's a low percentage happening as it is, but now you can call for a fair catch after the ball bounces once? That pretty much leaves one option - to dribble it down the middle which the defense is/was obviously waiting for. What other scenario would work? I saw that Wisconsin almost pulled it off - almost, but not quite. I'd like to see a team that does, because I see the new rule putting the chances of this happening pretty much at a zero in a situation where an onside is expected.

I know it's a rule to protect the players, but come on, it's football. Pretty soon kick off's will be reduced to two hand touch.

 
My only though after hearing that rule is to kick it at one person as hard as you can and hope it bounces of them and back to the kicking team, other than that, I can't think of a way it would ever have even a remote chance of working.

 
It's a bullsh#t rule and you are correct. If you do the standard onside to tryn lift the ball, you are screwed. If the fair catch is called you cannot even touch the guy or else it will be a kick catch interference and a 15 yard penalty, the only way to recover would be a missed catch

 
Within a few years the kick off will be gone from college football. Too many serious injuries, life threatening injuries. Numerous top coaches are already saying do away with it.

 
Also, why wouldn't the receiving team just put one guy up there (to avoid someone accidentally touching the ball), call for the fair catch, and then let the ball fly where it will without anyone touching it? If you call for the fair catch you don't actually need to catch it. You can just let the ball be downed where it stops and retain possession.

 
NUance said:
Also, why wouldn't the receiving team just put one guy up there (to avoid someone accidentally touching the ball), call for the fair catch, and then let the ball fly where it will without anyone touching it? If you call for the fair catch you don't actually need to catch it. You can just let the ball be downed where it stops and retain possession.
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?.... If I get what you're saying correctly, it makes no sense. If he just lets the ball go, the other team can recover it and take back possession. On a kickoff, or onside, the receiving team has to recover it unless the ball doesn't roll 10 yards.

 
HuskerShark said:
NUance said:
Also, why wouldn't the receiving team just put one guy up there (to avoid someone accidentally touching the ball), call for the fair catch, and then let the ball fly where it will without anyone touching it? If you call for the fair catch you don't actually need to catch it. You can just let the ball be downed where it stops and retain possession.
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?.... If I get what you're saying correctly, it makes no sense. If he just lets the ball go, the other team can recover it and take back possession. On a kickoff, or onside, the receiving team has to recover it unless the ball doesn't roll 10 yards.
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If that's the case then a kick-off fair catch is different than a fair catch on a punt. If the punt returner calls for a fair catch he can let the ball sail over his head and they (the receiving team) retain possession.

So I guess it must be different than a punt fair catch. Otherwise the kickoff team would always call for a fair catch and just let the ball roll. OKay, I get it. Duh.
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NUance said:
HuskerShark said:
NUance said:
Also, why wouldn't the receiving team just put one guy up there (to avoid someone accidentally touching the ball), call for the fair catch, and then let the ball fly where it will without anyone touching it? If you call for the fair catch you don't actually need to catch it. You can just let the ball be downed where it stops and retain possession.
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?.... If I get what you're saying correctly, it makes no sense. If he just lets the ball go, the other team can recover it and take back possession. On a kickoff, or onside, the receiving team has to recover it unless the ball doesn't roll 10 yards.
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If that's the case then a kick-off fair catch is different than a fair catch on a punt. If the punt returner calls for a fair catch he can let the ball sail over his head and they (the receiving team) retain possession.

So I guess it must be different than a punt fair catch. Otherwise the kickoff team would always call for a fair catch and just let the ball roll. OKay, I get it. Duh.
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On a punt, the returner doesn't even have to call for the fair catch. He could just let it roll and as long as he doesn't touch it, the kicking team can down it.

 
The rule is absolutely stupid.

Let me ask you this, when was the last time you remember a player being severely injured on an on-side-kick?

 
NUance said:
HuskerShark said:
NUance said:
Also, why wouldn't the receiving team just put one guy up there (to avoid someone accidentally touching the ball), call for the fair catch, and then let the ball fly where it will without anyone touching it? If you call for the fair catch you don't actually need to catch it. You can just let the ball be downed where it stops and retain possession.
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?.... If I get what you're saying correctly, it makes no sense. If he just lets the ball go, the other team can recover it and take back possession. On a kickoff, or onside, the receiving team has to recover it unless the ball doesn't roll 10 yards.
Click to expand...
If that's the case then a kick-off fair catch is different than a fair catch on a punt. If the punt returner calls for a fair catch he can let the ball sail over his head and they (the receiving team) retain possession.

So I guess it must be different than a punt fair catch. Otherwise the kickoff team would always call for a fair catch and just let the ball roll. OKay, I get it. Duh.
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Yes. Once the ball passes the 10 yard mark on a kickoff, it is anyone's ball.

 
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