The General Election
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knapplc
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Trump's strength is in demagoguery. He's no governor, and cannot run a country. We've had three months of flips, flops & failures to show us that. He knows it as well as anyone, which is why he's trying to ride the campaign wave six months after the election.
This really is all he has. If he's not campaigning, he's nothing. He'll just continue to do these dumb campaign things until finally even his staunchest supporters demand he actually tries to govern. Then he'll either manufacture a crisis and distract them or he'll run off to his resort.
This really is all he has. If he's not campaigning, he's nothing. He'll just continue to do these dumb campaign things until finally even his staunchest supporters demand he actually tries to govern. Then he'll either manufacture a crisis and distract them or he'll run off to his resort.
BigRedBuster
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zoogs
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/31/15719342/hillary-clinton-2016-excuses
I don’t disagree, but why? Why are you doing this, Hillary?
This is the time for resistance, not recriminations. Maybe there's a greater context here. In a vacuum, it's just exasperating.
BigRedBuster
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She thinks people still care about what she says. She needs to just go away and enjoy the rest of her life with her family.
zoogs
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I don't agree that she needs to go away. I kind of wish she'd just join the fight -- as she has done, to be fair. I'm not interested in further finger-pointing about the 2016 election. What battle is she fighting here? Why is this any sort of priority?
I would prefer her to follow Evan McMullin's model in just skewering Trump for things he does.
I would prefer her to follow Evan McMullin's model in just skewering Trump for things he does.
knapplc
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As an excuse for losing the election, the insolvency argument holds no water. She was raking in tens of millions of dollars. If people wanted to vote for her they would have, regardless of the state of the DNC's finances.
However, as a completely unrelated discussion, the fact that the DNC was so poorly run that it was nearly insolvent is pretty indicative of the state of the Democratic Party right now. I've been asking for months and months, "Where are the Democrats?" They're nearly nonexistent on the national stage, except as supporting characters, and then barely heard from.
Basically, since Obamacare was passed, they've been hiding out, afraid of the ramifications of that bill.
It's amazing how so much of this country's future hinges on that one piece of legislation. The Republicans built themselves up from the ashes of 2012 into a juggernaut based nearly entirely on fighting Obamacare, and the Democrats, rather than meet the Republicans in the trenches, have basically run away from the fight.
One party is rising, the other is a wisp of smoke in the wind, and it's all based on some seemingly unrelated piece of legislation.
However, as a completely unrelated discussion, the fact that the DNC was so poorly run that it was nearly insolvent is pretty indicative of the state of the Democratic Party right now. I've been asking for months and months, "Where are the Democrats?" They're nearly nonexistent on the national stage, except as supporting characters, and then barely heard from.
Basically, since Obamacare was passed, they've been hiding out, afraid of the ramifications of that bill.
It's amazing how so much of this country's future hinges on that one piece of legislation. The Republicans built themselves up from the ashes of 2012 into a juggernaut based nearly entirely on fighting Obamacare, and the Democrats, rather than meet the Republicans in the trenches, have basically run away from the fight.
One party is rising, the other is a wisp of smoke in the wind, and it's all based on some seemingly unrelated piece of legislation.
BigRedBuster
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Fine...she would still just be viewed as a sour old politician that didn't win.
Evan gets away with it because he (for the most part) wasn't involved in the last election other than getting in late with no chance of winning.
Hillary would just be viewed as a partisan hack.
She has grandkids to spoil.
knapplc
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If she runs again in 2020 you may as well just pack up the Democrat party and throw them in the trash heap. That would be a huge, huge mistake.
Biden shouldn't run, either. It's time to move on from the Democrats' Old Guard. They need fresh blood. The Republicans have capitalized on that in the past few elections, winning congressional seats and, shockingly, the presidency.
Biden shouldn't run, either. It's time to move on from the Democrats' Old Guard. They need fresh blood. The Republicans have capitalized on that in the past few elections, winning congressional seats and, shockingly, the presidency.
BigRedBuster
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I must say.....
I do find it funny that she is throwing the Democratic Party under the bus.
This is the party that basically hand picked her years before hand, supported her and worked behind the scenes to make sure she got the nomination.
She loses (in large part to her own pathetic campaign) and she sacrifices them to the wolves.
Her true personality is coming out in this.
I do find it funny that she is throwing the Democratic Party under the bus.
This is the party that basically hand picked her years before hand, supported her and worked behind the scenes to make sure she got the nomination.
She loses (in large part to her own pathetic campaign) and she sacrifices them to the wolves.
Her true personality is coming out in this.
