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True2tRA said:
lo country said:
NebraskaHarry said:
Piss more play calling and QB play on the last 3 plays. Beck setting Tommy up with disaster and Tommy not going through his progressions. You remember that time you threw Abdullah in the flats against McNeese. Good Grief!
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TA is a PA passer. He is not a pocket, progression guy. Beck wants a Reesing so bad........ Need to continually play to TA's strengths. (go back to them)
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Nope. TA is all of the above. Hes just young and learning. Hard to believe huh? Him being a sophomore and all. He's a dual threat QB, he can make all the throws......but when he makes any mistake we want to label him and his entire skill set instead of just admitting that he's young and he makes some of the same mistakes that NFL veterans make.
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No it's people like you thinking he's gonna be more than he really is. He's not gonna be an elite College qb, that's ok. With our run game the next two-three years, you don't have to be Mariotta or Winston, or Braxton for that matter. As long as he keeps up his amazing ability to run and grow to be efficient with the ball and read the field well enough to consistently make teams pay for stacking the box, he'll have done what's expected of him.

 
Beez said:
True2tRA said:
lo country said:
NebraskaHarry said:
Piss more play calling and QB play on the last 3 plays. Beck setting Tommy up with disaster and Tommy not going through his progressions. You remember that time you threw Abdullah in the flats against McNeese. Good Grief!
Click to expand...
TA is a PA passer. He is not a pocket, progression guy. Beck wants a Reesing so bad........ Need to continually play to TA's strengths. (go back to them)
Click to expand...
Nope. TA is all of the above. Hes just young and learning. Hard to believe huh? Him being a sophomore and all. He's a dual threat QB, he can make all the throws......but when he makes any mistake we want to label him and his entire skill set instead of just admitting that he's young and he makes some of the same mistakes that NFL veterans make.
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I like TA, but he has been bad this game bro. Real bad.
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He's not perfect.

Yet.

 
i think it has taken many many years for beck to figure it out but when the other team cant stop the run then run some more....he is finally getting it i think

 
True2tRA said:
Beez said:
True2tRA said:
lo country said:
NebraskaHarry said:
Piss more play calling and QB play on the last 3 plays. Beck setting Tommy up with disaster and Tommy not going through his progressions. You remember that time you threw Abdullah in the flats against McNeese. Good Grief!
Click to expand...
TA is a PA passer. He is not a pocket, progression guy. Beck wants a Reesing so bad........ Need to continually play to TA's strengths. (go back to them)
Click to expand...
Nope. TA is all of the above. Hes just young and learning. Hard to believe huh? Him being a sophomore and all. He's a dual threat QB, he can make all the throws......but when he makes any mistake we want to label him and his entire skill set instead of just admitting that he's young and he makes some of the same mistakes that NFL veterans make.
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I like TA, but he has been bad this game bro. Real bad.
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He's not perfect.

Yet.
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He's got two more years to get there.

 
Army_Allen said:
True2tRA said:
lo country said:
NebraskaHarry said:
Piss more play calling and QB play on the last 3 plays. Beck setting Tommy up with disaster and Tommy not going through his progressions. You remember that time you threw Abdullah in the flats against McNeese. Good Grief!
Click to expand...
TA is a PA passer. He is not a pocket, progression guy. Beck wants a Reesing so bad........ Need to continually play to TA's strengths. (go back to them)
Click to expand...
Nope. TA is all of the above. Hes just young and learning. Hard to believe huh? Him being a sophomore and all. He's a dual threat QB, he can make all the throws......but when he makes any mistake we want to label him and his entire skill set instead of just admitting that he's young and he makes some of the same mistakes that NFL veterans make.
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No it's people like you thinking he's gonna be more than he really is. He's not gonna be an elite College qb, that's ok. With our run game the next two-three years, you don't have to be Mariotta or Winston, or Braxton for that matter. As long as he keeps up his amazing ability to run and grow to be efficient with the ball and read the field well enough to consistently make teams pay for stacking the box, he'll have done what's expected of him.
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I apologize for guys like me.

 
No reason to throw the ball when the other team can't stop the run. Simple as that..............don't care if it's MSU or Fresno State. We're going to run it, try and stop it! Seemed to work fine in the 90's............

 
Of Tommy's 7 incompletions, we had

- one 3rd & 20

- one 3rd & 11

- three in a row during the 60 second drill.

We have to get better when we're in pass-only situations (such as the excellent 3rd & 5 screen to Newby) but as long as we're only throwing in pass-only situations, our efficiency numbers won't be that great. Look up any team's 3rd & 10+ or 2-minute drill completion % stats. The INT and the near-INT were very bad decisions, though. No doubt.

But look at the long TD throw, the Kenny fade in the endzone where he didn't run through, or the long completion to Westerkamp where he felt the pressure, stepped up and hit his man downfield, and tell me Tommy doesn't threaten with his passing ability.

In the meantime, we're content to run the ball 38 times in one half, have scored 31 points, and put up 391 yards. Few performances are completely perfect, but this one is clicking tonight.

 
Bo sounds FIRED UP going into the second half. Calling out the defense on busted assignments and lack of communication.

GET 'EM BO!

Let's see how the team responds.

 
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BIGREDIOWAN said:
No reason to throw the ball when the other team can't stop the run. Simple as that..............don't care if it's MSU or Fresno State. We're going to run it, try and stop it! Seemed to work fine in the 90's............
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Except when it's a sixty yards in the air money ball to Kenny.........then it's okay.

 
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