Well said my friendThe problem with this is you're talking to a fan base who had their best game of the year taken away entirely, not just moved to a different day. You're not going to get a lot of sympathy here.The 'problem' is explained by this guy: A BuckeyeI don't see a problem with it. Unlike us and OU, Michigan will have a protected crossover with OSU so it's not like their rivalry will end. It's not at the end of the season anymore but I think it still helps the rivalry since now they can meet in the championship game. If we had had a protected crossover with OU our rivalry would still be going strong.
Now its already said that geography will not be the primary factor for settling who will go to which divisions, but it will be taken into consideration. In my mind rivalries and history outweighs geography.That would be perfect if Penn State were located somewhere between Illinois and IowaI wish the divisions would look like this....
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Division A
Nebraska
Penn State
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern or Illinois
Division B
Ohio St.
Michigan
Michigan St.
Purdue
Indiana
and our crossover game with Michigan
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but hey it doesn't look like it will be that way, I do hope if Penn State is not in our division that they would be our crossover game though.
Northwestern or Illinois
I'll just about guarantee it. Michigan didn't become the winningest college football team of all time by accident. They have a huge fan base. They have boosters up the wazoo, with money up the wazoo. They have a huge, great, destination school. They have tradition that 95% of all college football teams can only dream of having. They are among the elite for a reason, and one or two bad coaches in a row isn't going to be enough to keep them down. It would take generations of horrific play to fully dampen the ardor from Ann Arbor.Shouldnt put their marbles in on two teams based on old traditions. IDK if MICH will ever really recover.
I agree.protected rivalry via cross over game anyone? SEC does the big ten will as well. The big rivalry will continue, albeit on a different date.
Well, I suppose, it's just the difference between climax and anti-climax. The timing of this game is a big part of what made it great.
I think you're probably right with Michigan. I don't know who this 'Notre Dame' is you're talking about thoughI'll just about guarantee it. Michigan didn't become the winningest college football team of all time by accident. They have a huge fan base. They have boosters up the wazoo, with money up the wazoo. They have a huge, great, destination school. They have tradition that 95% of all college football teams can only dream of having. They are among the elite for a reason, and one or two bad coaches in a row isn't going to be enough to keep them down. It would take generations of horrific play to fully dampen the ardor from Ann Arbor.Shouldnt put their marbles in on two teams based on old traditions. IDK if MICH will ever really recover.
We saw this stumble with Nebraska. We saw it with Oklahoma. We saw it with USC. We saw it with Miami. We saw it with Alabama. We saw it with any one of another ten schools, just like we're seeing it right now with Notre Dame and Michigan, but I will double-dog guarantee you that both Notre Dame and Michigan are going to rise up again. Gonna happen, not a doubt in my mind.
+1 :thumbsI think you're probably right with Michigan. I don't know who this 'Notre Dame' is you're talking about thoughI'll just about guarantee it. Michigan didn't become the winningest college football team of all time by accident. They have a huge fan base. They have boosters up the wazoo, with money up the wazoo. They have a huge, great, destination school. They have tradition that 95% of all college football teams can only dream of having. They are among the elite for a reason, and one or two bad coaches in a row isn't going to be enough to keep them down. It would take generations of horrific play to fully dampen the ardor from Ann Arbor.Shouldnt put their marbles in on two teams based on old traditions. IDK if MICH will ever really recover.
We saw this stumble with Nebraska. We saw it with Oklahoma. We saw it with USC. We saw it with Miami. We saw it with Alabama. We saw it with any one of another ten schools, just like we're seeing it right now with Notre Dame and Michigan, but I will double-dog guarantee you that both Notre Dame and Michigan are going to rise up again. Gonna happen, not a doubt in my mind.![]()
But a rivalry is naturally another school in the relative area. Very rarely does a rivarly occur when two schools are hundreds of miles apart(USC-ND). I would say we have a better chance at developing a rivalry with Iowa and Wisconsin than Michigan or Penn St.Now its already said that geography will not be the primary factor for settling who will go to which divisions, but it will be taken into consideration. In my mind rivalries and history outweighs geography.That would be perfect if Penn State were located somewhere between Illinois and IowaI wish the divisions would look like this....
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Division A
Nebraska
Penn State
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern or Illinois
Division B
Ohio St.
Michigan
Michigan St.
Purdue
Indiana
and our crossover game with Michigan
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but hey it doesn't look like it will be that way, I do hope if Penn State is not in our division that they would be our crossover game though.
Northwestern or Illinois
but if that doesn't work, give us Penn State as a cross-over (although the implications of the game go down a little bit).
Im fine with rivalries with any of those teams, just as long as they aren't our main Rival. Heck Colorado had one national title and a recent Heisman and they weren't qualified to be our main Rival, so what makes Iowa or any of the rest?But a rivalry is naturally another school in the relative area. Very rarely does a rivarly occur when two schools are hundreds of miles apart(USC-ND). I would say we have a better chance at developing a rivalry with Iowa and Wisconsin than Michigan or Penn St.Now its already said that geography will not be the primary factor for settling who will go to which divisions, but it will be taken into consideration. In my mind rivalries and history outweighs geography.That would be perfect if Penn State were located somewhere between Illinois and IowaI wish the divisions would look like this....
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Division A
Nebraska
Penn State
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern or Illinois
Division B
Ohio St.
Michigan
Michigan St.
Purdue
Indiana
and our crossover game with Michigan
*********************************************
but hey it doesn't look like it will be that way, I do hope if Penn State is not in our division that they would be our crossover game though.
Northwestern or Illinois
but if that doesn't work, give us Penn State as a cross-over (although the implications of the game go down a little bit).
So who do you consider our Rival? Mizzou? KSU? Even though our rivalry with Colorado is not a 1 vs. 2 anymore, I loathe that team and take personal joy everytime we beat them. I still consider them our rival based on our mutual hatred.Im fine with rivalries with any of those team, just as long as they aren't our main Rival. Heck Colorado had one national title and a recent Heisman and they weren't qualified to be our main Rival, so what makes Iowa or any of the rest?But a rivalry is naturally another school in the relative area. Very rarely does a rivarly occur when two schools are hundreds of miles apart(USC-ND). I would say we have a better chance at developing a rivalry with Iowa and Wisconsin than Michigan or Penn St.Now its already said that geography will not be the primary factor for settling who will go to which divisions, but it will be taken into consideration. In my mind rivalries and history outweighs geography.That would be perfect if Penn State were located somewhere between Illinois and IowaI wish the divisions would look like this....
********************************************
Division A
Nebraska
Penn State
Iowa
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern or Illinois
Division B
Ohio St.
Michigan
Michigan St.
Purdue
Indiana
and our crossover game with Michigan
*********************************************
but hey it doesn't look like it will be that way, I do hope if Penn State is not in our division that they would be our crossover game though.
Northwestern or Illinois
but if that doesn't work, give us Penn State as a cross-over (although the implications of the game go down a little bit).