Trump 2.0 - Foreign Policy

Scarlet said:
Marco seeing his life pass before the Hague..lol
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Just like trump, aka the Felon, indirectly saying there is  nothing to buy in Greenland,  there is nothing to buy in Panama,  there is nothing to buy in Canada - without the USA, those countries have no value.   

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Well, we see the Trump Doctrine coming more clear:   abandon Europe and specifically Ukraine.   Let the dominoes fall where they may.

US to withdraw to 'prioritize its own security against China'.     Putin and his cronies are licking their chops and doing cartwheels.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russia-is-popping-champagne-onlookers-blast-pete-hegseth-after-big-ukraine-announcement/ar-AA1yUjbF?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=09a98ef79fae4b0dbb2aad3eea110419&ei=26

U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth gave away a major bargaining chip on Ukraine even before negotiating a settlement to end its war with Russia, according to some experts.

The Pentagon chief spoke Wednesday morning before a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group and said the possibility of the war-torn nation joining NATO was unrealistic and announced that the U.S. would prioritize its own security against China over its European allies and Ukraine, reported CNN.




“The United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement,” Hegseth said, stressing that no U.S. troops would be deployed to the country.
“We’re also here today to directly and unambiguously express that stark strategic realities prevent the United States of America from being primarily focused on the security of Europe,” he added.

Experts weren't exactly surprised by Hegseth's comments or his tone, but they said the defense secretaries comments signaled a win for Russia and its president Vladimir Putin.

"They just surrendered one of the main points of leverage before negotiations even begin," posted former State Department spokesman Matthew Miller.
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Of course, Comrade Putin knew how to butter Trump up  - using the 'Common Sense' approach.   The dictator and the want-to-be dictator had a productive talk.  It probably went like this:

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So here is how we will treat our friend in Ukraine -  We will negotiate an end to the war by:

1. giving Russia the land it occupies

2. USA raping Ukraine of its rare earth materials as a way for Ukraine to pay back USA military aid.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaking-putin-says-negotiations-172612411.html

President Donald Trump said negotiations to end the Ukraine war will start “immediately” after holding a “lengthy and highly productive” telephone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday morning.

The call, which is the first known conversation between the presidents since Trump assumed office last month, came as as Trump makes clear to his advisers he wants to bring the Ukraine conflict to a swift end.

Trump administration officials said they hoped a prisoner “exchange” on Tuesday could portend renewed efforts to end the war, which is about to enter its fourth year.
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“President Putin even used my very strong Campaign motto of, ‘COMMON SENSE.’ We both believe very strongly in it,” Trump wrote, suggesting the former KGB agent on the other end of the line had chosen his words carefully to appeal to the US leader.

The Kremlin said Trump and Putin spoke for nearly 90 minutes.

Trump had been signaling for weeks his desire to speak with Putin as he works to resolve the Ukraine conflict.

As American officials travel in Europe this week, they have begun taking clearer positions on how the conclusion of the Ukraine war might look. Speaking to a conference in Brussels, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said Kyiv joining NATO is unrealistic and that the US will no longer prioritize European and Ukrainian security as the Trump administration shifts its attention to securing US borders and deterring war with China.
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Meanwhile, Trump has spoken of striking a deal with Ukraine’s Zelensky for American access to the country’s valuable rare earth minerals as payment for continued American assistance.

Trump spoke with Zelensky midday, shortly after getting off the phone with Putin.
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I'm no fan of Bolton but he is spot on in his assessment of Trump/Putin relationship.  KGB Putin knows how to manipulate Trump and get what he wants.  He notes that Trump's actions/statements have opened the door not only for Russia to be aggressive against all other former Soviet satellite countries but also for China to take action against Taiwan as they both see the USA stepping back and paying attention only to our security.    

Trump will enable Putin to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.  

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/12/politics/video/john-bolton-trump-putin-ukraine-russia-negotiations-digvid?dicbo=v2-4xto4eA&hpt=ob_25tp

 
BigRedBuster said:
Well, it’s clear who he answers to. 
 


So, then Ukraine gets to keep the land they took?
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What will history say about this era???   So much of the advances in human rights & humanitarian aid that the USA has led since WW 2 are being washed away by this idiot who was elected president.  He gives the green light to Soviet - or I mean Russian aggression and also to China by his stupidity.  He has no concept of historical time and place.  Great men and women rise up, he shrinks back and wants a 'peace' that makes him look good.  

 
There are much bigger problems in the world than this, which is why it's remarkable the Trump administration bothered to address this non-issue: 

Donald Trump is offering refugee status and asylum to wealthy white Afrikaners in South Africa, who he falsely claims are having their rights violated for being white.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/nx-s1-5294345/trump-ignites-political-firestorm-in-south-africa-over-afrikaner-asylum-status-offer

These guys have gone so far beyond satire you don't know what to say anymore. It wouldn't be surprising if South African Elon Musk was behind this. Wouldn't be surprising if it was just next in line in the bats#!t racist grab bag. 

 
OK, so let's think about this logic.


All through Trump's first term and so far in this term, he has done nothing but try to make enemies out of our allies and tear apart our relationship with NATO.

And....now, HIS Secretary of Defense comes out and says no way could we defend ourselves against Russia.

Do these people even have a coherent thought on how one statement or action works or doesn't work with another statement or action? :facepalm:

 
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