Trump's Post Election Fallout: Legal & Obstruction actions

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Notre Dame Joe said:
Maybe if one of them had challenged Pelosi to a duel...  I have not heard that anyone in the mob brought weapons into the Capitol. 
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Then you should do some research. At least six weapons were recovered from the riots that day according to D.C. police, and a cooler with a long gun + molotov cocktails was found inside the Capitol.

But politicians do and always have used the most extreme rhetoric. 

To claim one or another caused actual violence is just another form of extreme rhetoric.
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So you genuinely don't believe any of the things said at the pre-riot rally may have helped cause the riots and vandalism at the Capitol? Don't bring in any outside context of 'well other politicians say this or that' or 'well what about Dems who do this or that.' I'm asking about this specific situation and this specific circumstance.

 
funhusker said:
This guy:  https://whnt.com/news/falkville-man-had-multiple-guns-ammunition-and-gasoline-bombs-at-d-c-rally-police-say/amp/

I guess it doesn’t really say if they think he was also responsible for the pipe bomb.  They did find Molotov cocktails though.
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Enhance said:
Then you should do some research. At least six weapons were recovered from the riots that day according to D.C. police, and a cooler with a long gun + molotov cocktails was found inside the Capitol.

So you genuinely don't believe any of the things said at the pre-riot rally may have helped cause the riots and vandalism at the Capitol? Don't bring in any outside context of 'well other politicians say this or that' or 'well what about Dems who do this or that.' I'm asking about this specific situation and this specific circumstance.
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"The Capitol" is a distinct building.  It does not refer to a parking garage or Washington DC in general.  The pipe bombs discussed were found outside the offices of both political parties.  That appears to be action of one inept terrorist.  

Therefore you cannot use the word "coup" anymore to describe the mob.  You don't stage a coup by leaving your weapons in your vehicle and then storming into the seat of government with a flag pole.  In a coup you bring your weapons inside to bear on the officials.

"May have helped cause" is a no brainer since it's the lowest bar to step over. Rabble rousing being why people hate politicians. Every fiery speech in history contributed to whatever happened afterwards.

 
Archy1221 said:
In theory, getting rid of the EC is because some people believe one person one vote for President.  If not majority rule in that vote, they feel other voters have outsized influence.  
 

If that is the line of thinking, then why wouldn’t we get rid of the Senate?  Because That same line of thinking would dictate 2 Senators from RI give those citizens by population proportion more power than 2 CA Senators by their population proportion. 
 

obviously I say keep the status quo because the design protects all people from self destructing an entire system of government.  As evidence by today, this system can withstand an awful lot of nonsense. 
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No, you say keep status quo because you and everyone else knows if the EC is abolished, the republicans will never win another election again unless they had a political realignment. 

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
"The Capitol" is a distinct building.  It does not refer to a parking garage or Washington DC in general.  The pipe bombs discussed were found outside the offices of both political parties.  That appears to be action of one inept terrorist.  

Therefore you cannot use the word "coup" anymore to describe the mob.  You don't stage a coup by leaving your weapons in your vehicle and then storming into the seat of government with a flag pole.  In a coup you bring your weapons inside to bear on the officials.

"May have helped cause" is a no brainer since it's the lowest bar to step over. Rabble rousing being why people hate politicians. Every fiery speech in history contributed to whatever happened afterwards.
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and the rioters were screaming hang pence.    and they set up a noose outside the capitol.     they stormed the building when he refused to not certify the election.  i would say wanting to lynch the vice president is close enough to call it a coup.   

FWIW....don is calling for more fun on the 20th.  wonder what that will be?    

 
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