Turner Gill: No women after 10 p.m.

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In Kansas, Turner Gill Becomes the Wizard of Oddby Clay Travis

Want to be out after 10 at night in the presence of a woman? Good luck, if you're a football player in Lawrence, Kan. Correction, make that a college football player in Lawrence; high school gridders have greater freedoms these days than anyone on the Jayhawks.

The "no women after 10 p.m." rule is one of first-year head coach Turner Gill's rules for the Kansas football team. The rule isn't just for public interaction, you also violate it if you're in the presence of a woman at her place or yours. While Gill has acknowledged that proving a violation is difficult, according to KUSports.com, "he (Gill) explained the penalty would be more severe if a KU player was involved with an incident and it was discovered that the player had broken the policy."

More severe?

What if the player isn't doing anything at all but hanging out with a member of the opposite sex? And 10 at night? Ten? Coaches are fond of saying nothing good happens after midnight -- which is completely wrong, by the way. Expanding that cliche to encompass nothing good happening before the nightly news is over? Most nursing home residents are living scandalous lifestyles compared to the antediluvian restrictions that Gill is foisting upon his players.

Is Gill aware coed dorms exist? What happens then? Do players have to show up every morning at five to run wind sprints as penance for having the temerity to live in the same building with unmarried women? Already, despite the opposite-sex prohibitions, Kansas has lost to North Dakota State in its home opener. Can you imagine how badly the Jayhawks might have lost to North Dakota State if players had been allowed to speak with women after 10?

I can, it might have been 9-3 instead of 6-3.

In order to pull off this road win and counteract the female prohibition at Kansas, North Dakota State's entire team must have pledged to be celibate for the rest of their lives. A small price to pay for a Saturday win.

Turner Gill's expansive directives aimed at controlling his players every waking moment are the latest examples of football coaches becoming more and more like totalitarian dictators each year. Freedom of communication grows for college students? Football coaches push back in the opposite direction, limiting those freedoms in a misguided attempt to tighten the reins of program discipline. Facebook? Some coaches are banning it. Twitter? Boise State's Chris Petersen began the banning rush in the offseason. Now, Kansas doesn't want its football players around women at night. What's next, players not allowed to have cell phones?

Too late.

Kansas players can't do that either, not in the 24 hours leading up to a game, anyway. That's because the Kansas coaching staff confiscates the players' cell phones and won't return them until after the game. I'm not making this up. They actually take the phones. A parent or family member needing to reach your child in the event of emergency? You call the director of football operations. linky
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Okay. This is just bizarre. At least the players got laid back when that fat guy was coach.

 
True, but under the laid-back fat guy, the football team was brawling with the basketball team.

 
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No women after 10pm every single night? That's f'ing stupid. I can understand something on night before a game, but this is just ridiculous.

The cell phone policy is also rather absurd. What purpose could that possibly serve?

May as well just ban social lives during the season

 
Malth said:
No women after 10pm every single night? That's f'ing stupid. I can understand something on night before a game, but this is just ridiculous.

The cell phone policy is also rather absurd. What purpose could that possibly serve?

May as well just ban social lives during the season
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My thoughts exactly. I could understand a no-woman-after-10-before-game-night Rule. But everyday? And the cell phone ban? Turner is trying to build football players, and not monks, right?

 
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Unless they go to team hotel for home games (like the Huskers do), the no cell phone deal is a little questionable. What if the player has an emergency?

 
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Unless they go to team hotel for home games (like the Huskers do), the no cell phone deal is a little questionable. What if the player has an emergency?
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I read people can contact the "director of football operations" or someone with a similar title who can get hold of the players if it's an emergency. Turner was a Husker and I respect what he did here and at Buffalo, but this is simply stupid. It's his program and he can make these decisions, but we'll see if they're to his benefit or not.

 
this qualifies as one of those non-football related moves that overshadows everything else...and thats stupid imho.

 
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WOMEN WEAKEN LEGS!!!

 
It keeps getting stranger and stranger in Lawrence. I also agree with Lonestar_Husker. This can't help their recruiting. These are 18-21 year old kids playing a sport fueled by testosterone. No women after 10 everyday? The players better start getting to it earlier in the day. :)

 
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I think one question I'd like to see answered about this is - is it a temporary thing? That is, is Gill doing this to change the program's culture? If so, then after a while he will remove the prohibition - not this year, but perhaps next year or the year after. I'd like that questions addressed before I condem the action. Sometimes desperate situations require desperate measures.

But yeah - it will hurt recruiting, I'm sure...

 
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