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krc1995 said:
Are you speaking of their homophobic stance? 
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It's hard to exactly give a comprehensive overview of the scumminess of Liberty, but here's a few things to help out:

A reporter's weekend at the Falwell's Flophouse

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/25/jerry-falwell-miami-hostel-liberty-university-trey-falwell-215528

Johnathan Martin banned from and threatened by Liberty 

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/561106568/christian-writer-banned-from-liberty-university-campus-after-criticizing-trump-a

They had no problem picking up and endorsing Baylor's disgraced athletic director who enabled and covered up a culture of rape.

Falwell routinely infringes on the first amendment with his censorship of the student newspaper

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/liberty-universitys-journalism-corruption/

So on and so forth.

 
Landlord said:
It's hard to exactly give a comprehensive overview of the scumminess of Liberty, but here's a few things to help out:

A reporter's weekend at the Falwell's Flophouse

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/25/jerry-falwell-miami-hostel-liberty-university-trey-falwell-215528

Johnathan Martin banned from and threatened by Liberty 

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/31/561106568/christian-writer-banned-from-liberty-university-campus-after-criticizing-trump-a

They had no problem picking up and endorsing Baylor's disgraced athletic director who enabled and covered up a culture of rape.

Falwell routinely infringes on the first amendment with his censorship of the student newspaper

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/liberty-universitys-journalism-corruption/

So on and so forth.
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Damn! Put 'em in the B1G East! 

 
Xmas32 said:
Best of luck to Turner and his family with everything.  

Would be interesting to see if Liberty goes after Ron Brown.  Hugh Freeze wouldn't stun me either.  Depends how quickly he wants to get a head coaching job again I suppose.
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I somehow don't think that one of the most conservative Christian colleges in the nation is going to go after a guy who got fired for hiring strippers and prostitutes for recruits, but I would laugh my a$$ off if they did. 

EDIT: I see this has been covered. I submit my apology, and offering to the gods: 

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I forgot this was Jerry Falwell’s university. I vaguely remember homophobic comments around 2012 ish, but don’t really remember the actual circumstance. Actually, I’m not sure if it was Liberty or Ron Brown that made those comments. My memory’s convoluted 

Bill Macartney, come on down. 

 
Enjoy the retirement! Miss that old offense and power game. Still ticks me off that Fryar dropped the pass in the OB. I swear he dropped it on purpose. Great call by TO. 

 
Landlord said:
Falwell routinely infringes on the first amendment with his censorship of the student newspaper

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/liberty-universitys-journalism-corruption/
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Still trying to find that job that I can say/do whatever I want even if it goes in against those that provide me the platform.  Not sure when the first amendment became the right to say whatever one wants at their job, but I’m fairly certain that’s not the intent.  If anyone thinks this doesn’t happen at every single newspaper then they’re sadly mistaken.  Any organization has an agenda that needs to align with a customer, sponsor, government, donor or share holder.

I happen to believe the Dean, who is quoted throughout, does a good job of explaining how the world works.  Replace “newspaper” with widget company and Liberty with Fortune 500 company.   The article author, much like yourself, attempts to turn this into something it isn’t.  The use of the term corruption is flat out lazy in this editorial.  Welcome to the real world where your boss/company has rules/agenda.

 
gobiggergoredder said:
Still trying to find that job that I can say/do whatever I want even if it goes in against those that provide me the platform.  Not sure when the first amendment became the right to say whatever one wants at their job, but I’m fairly certain that’s not the intent.  If anyone thinks this doesn’t happen at every single newspaper then they’re sadly mistaken.  Any organization has an agenda that needs to align with a customer, sponsor, government, donor or share holder.

I happen to believe the Dean, who is quoted throughout, does a good job of explaining how the world works.  Replace “newspaper” with widget company and Liberty with Fortune 500 company.   The article author, much like yourself, attempts to turn this into something it isn’t.  The use of the term corruption is flat out lazy in this editorial.  Welcome to the real world where your boss/company has rules/agenda.
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Except Liberty enjoys tax exempt status, so they can't be replaced with any widget company. The religious tax exemption is to offset all the supposed charity that religious institutions are supposedly doing. Providing a forum for Republican candidates and pushing a political agenda should not be considered charity, therefore I think they should be taxed accordingly or adhere to the intent of tax exemption status.

Edit: They also need to realize that they, in NO WAY, hold ANY moral high ground. Too hypocritical. 

 
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Lonestar_Husker said:
Except University of Any State USA enjoys tax payer funding, so they can't be replaced with any widget company. The state funding they receive is to be used to educate those that use a state funded institution. Providing a forum for Democratic candidates and pushing a political agenda should not be done with public funds therefore I think they should be taxed accordingly or adhere to the intent of tax exemption status .
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I agree with you, but it happens everywhere.  The is a substantial number of organizations that are tax exempt that have a clear political agenda.  Neither example has anything to do with the first amendment, corruption or peoples rights.

 
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