USC's WCO verses NU's WCO
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Roy CO HSKR
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For anyone that has raised teenagers, they know well the saying "I've had it up to here with you!" Can you remember where the hands were when that was yelled out? That is what he was doing. He isn't the fool that FF thinks he is!!
It was not neccessarily a "foolish" statement on billy c's part, rather it was a blatantly untrue statement.
Ive seen the "had it up to here with you" gesture, but this is the first time that I have ever seen it done by running your hand from one side of your throat to the other :blink:
Redman
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I actually hoped it was a throat slash. The refs were absolutley horrible that game. If it was, I applaud BC for showing so much emotion. If it was a "had it up to here" gesture, I applaud his restraint. Either way works for me. He may be lying, he may not be, I don't really care. What I really do not want is a coach that is afraid to show his emotions. But, in the end, it is over with and has nothing really to do with a 2 back set.
NamelessHusker
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There's also a 101 ways to cook a chicken, what's your point? Exactly what constitutes a "had it up to here with you" gesture? Grabbing your crotch like Michael Jackson? Smacking yourself in the head like Marlyn Manson?
Like i said, and i am sure many posters agree with me on this and you will be hard pressed to find anyone who disagrees with me but Callahan's opinion of what they ran and what USC runs holds more weight then your opinion FF. That's just the truth. The only thing you are doing is stating nothing more then an opinion and we all know what opinions are like right?
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StuckinChicago
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And since Carson Palmer was in no way referring to Nebraska's offense in that article, than yes ff, it is your own opinion you are standing on and you own expertise in the area of football coaching. Your knowledge vs. Callahan's knowledge. Not much of a fight.
Possibly, but to flat out deny it shows questionable character, and a penchant for saying the untrue. If you are naive enough to believe someone who purposely tells untruths ....... <_<
Actually, Ive provided proof from a player that played in a WCO system and a much more simplified system. That player is a winner who knows the difference. I can believe him, or a coach who is of questionable character when in comes to honesty.
Agreed. :thumbs Ive never had the distinction of taking a Super Bowl built team loaded with All-Pro players from first to worst, and Ive never taken a program that is legendary in winning status, one that returned the majority of its starters from a 10-3 team to its first losing season in decades.
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Blackshirtsguru
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Redman
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C'mon, everyone knows (putting all bias aside) that it was a throat slash. He was pissed off and rightfully so. Yes, he tried to avoid trouble, but he hot fined, its over with. Questionable charactor? I would maybe say emotional.
Oh, I never thought that I would see the use of Michael Jackson and Marilyn Manson used in a defense of Bill Callahan. Far-fetched, interesting, and damn funny.
I guess I do not understand what the hub-bub is over. Both offenses have roots in the original WCO designed by Walsh. The ofenses are going to be similar, but both BC and USC have altered and added to the playbook making them different. USC's is a more simple version, but still has similar formations and philosophy.
Boy can you simplify these two seasons anymore? C'mon, you know both (Raiders and BC's 1st year) have extreme extenuating circumstances.
If I remember correctly, the Raiders played in one, if not two AFC championship games prior to finally making it to the SB (losing one by a fluke). So yes, apparently they were talented and destined to go there.
I though it was all about talent. Are you saying that All-Pro's (ie elite players) dont have talent??
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:thumbs Agreed. If he just would have said, "I thought we got jobbed, I was pissed, I was emotional, it was the heat of the moment, I probably should not have done it," etc. etc. I would be with it. I would dig it. But the blatant "coverup" is what is pathetic and calls into question his character.
:yeah
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Then the same can be said for ANY pro-style offense that both passes and runs, and tries to get some sort of balance. Hogwash, I say.
Being a good coach means getting beyond these "extenuating circumstances."
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Silent Commit
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I'm saying that you can have x number of elite players and still have an average team.
If I remember correctly...they were the oldest team in the NFL that year. (or it would be more polite to say that they were the most veteraned team). C'mon Gannon, Brown...all those guys were past their prime. Heck, I think Callahan did a wonderful job taking them to the Super Bowl.
And, let's say you're right..that the Oakland team was destined to go to the Super Bowl. It STILL takes a great coach to take them there. If I recall, everyone felt that the Colts were destined this year. Alot of gurus had Minnesota of all teams as a lock for the Super Bowl. You can have all the talent in the world (which IMO does not describe the Oakland Raiders that year) and still not win it.
So, what's your opinion about the two-back set? (trying to get back to topic)
StuckinChicago
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