UT to B1G? According to this talks have happened..
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VectorVictor
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That doesn't mean anything. Or have we already forgotten the denials about the B1G offices and Nebraska meeting? Or the B1G and other schools in the Big XII (since there was that five team plan per the OWH)?
Also, saw this piece from Dennis Dodd from the other day:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-expansion-losing-momentum-no-grant-of-rights-extension-ranking-candidates/
Of note was the confirmation that the GORs would not be extended. This is pretty much a tacit confirmation that Texass and/or OU are wanting out by the conference...and honestly, it may not be *THAT* bad for the Big XII if one or both left.
If anything, they could expand now by four schools, give Texass and/or OU their exit, then expand the GOR, lock in a favorable TV deal with the networks, and confirm P5 status as a conference.
Sure it won't have Texass, but a Big XII with Texas, Kansas (read: Kansas City), and depending on expansion, Colorado, would garner them a good deal--better than being relegated to the non-P5 table.
Scratchtown
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Colorado?
Right when they are getting better because of their west coast exposure?
I can't imagine Colorado leaving the Pac12. Its just such a good fit.
Right when they are getting better because of their west coast exposure?
I can't imagine Colorado leaving the Pac12. Its just such a good fit.
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Kiyoat Husker
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I think that in this scenario the P5 becomes the P4, and the Big XII becomes the strongest "Group of 6" Conference (assuming they can grab some decent teams to add from Mt West and CUSA). Ala the AAC.
VectorVictor
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Thank you. Should have elaborated we're talking markets here, not schools.
Possibly, or they keep the Big XII and add another conference (Mountain West) when (not if) they expand the playoffs. Eight slots, six automatic and two wild card.
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Kiyoat Husker
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^^^ in that scenario it would be better to be in a weaker conference that still has a playoff automatic qualifier.
To paraphrase the late (not great) Al Davis: "Just get in, baby!"
To paraphrase the late (not great) Al Davis: "Just get in, baby!"
Redux
Assistant Coach
TCU
Texas Tech
Baylor
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
Houston
SMU
Boise State
BYU
Nevada
Colorado State
Air Force
San Diego State
Fresno State
Wyoming
There ya go. That's the conference that needs to form if KU, UT and OU leave. West Virginia is out because they should seriosly make the jump to the ACC.
Texas Tech
Baylor
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma State
Houston
SMU
Boise State
BYU
Nevada
Colorado State
Air Force
San Diego State
Fresno State
Wyoming
There ya go. That's the conference that needs to form if KU, UT and OU leave. West Virginia is out because they should seriosly make the jump to the ACC.
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huKSer
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SledgeMonkey
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I absolutely hate Texas. But if Oklahoma came with them to the Big Ten I would be excited. Real rivals every year! A respected one and a deep rooted hated one. Would also even out east v west perception.
I don't think Texas would be able to push around in the Big Ten
I don't think Texas would be able to push around in the Big Ten
huKSer
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VectorVictor
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They may not have much of a choice, especially since their brand cache is in the s*****r right now, relatively speaking.
Their options are:
- Stay in a Big XII that we know will either be picked clean by other conferences or add so much filler it's gonna look like Mountain West 2: Electric Boogaloo
- Go to the Pac 12, where they'll let Texass keep their crappy ESPN channel, but no one will watch their games in the rest of the United States.
- Go to the SEC, where their academic credentials will wither away while they get blasted on a weekly basis by the likes of 'Bama, Tennessee, and aTm (who may not even allow them entrance in the first place per the SEC's unwritten rule of allowing existing in-state SEC schools first denial)
- Go to the B1G, give up or repurpose their network (likely the later) and improve their academic cache while being seen nationwide and automatically have a leg up via Texass recruiting on the rest of the conference. We know that the BTN is wanting to own more of its programming, and having a BTN 2 (not just an overflow channel) on ESPN would be a great way to counter the SEC spin, show more B1G live content, and recycle *some* of the infrastructure already in place for Bevo TV.
But the fact that Texass and Oklahoma (and supposedly Kansas too) won't re-up on the GOR tells you they've already got designs to leave.
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Kiyoat Husker
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Looks like Dr Tom was pretty good at poker.
Count 'Bility
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Osborne was around for the Big 12 formation in the 90's. Pretty sure he was the only-if not very few-that were in our Ath offices in 2010. I dont think the big ten move happens-or even goes as smooth, without Osborne. His experience in the 90's i think was a big part. 20 years from now, when TO is gone and we're all looking back at history in that current environment of college athletics with where it appears to be heading, that move will be seen as a bigger accomplishment possibly than the 90's run.
