What Happens had NU hired Pelini in 2003 instead of Clownburger??

[Pedro Guerrero]

So, do you see what I mean now?

I see what you are saying but I don’t buy it that a coach can’t reach a certain level and not get any better. Just like guys can get better or worse they can also stay right where they are. It happens in every single aspect of life so why should coaching be immune to that? Barney’s Big 12 history showed us that you could expect 17-24 PPG and 300-350 YPG. If those types of offensive numbers are acceptable then nobody should be calling for Watson’s head because the stats from this year fall right in those categories (24 PPG 315 YPG).

 

[krc1995]

So, do you see what I mean now?

I see what you are saying but I don’t buy it that a coach can’t reach a certain level and not get any better. Just like guys can get better or worse they can also stay right where they are. It happens in every single aspect of life so why should coaching be immune to that? Barney’s Big 12 history showed us that you could expect 17-24 PPG and 300-350 YPG. If those types of offensive numbers are acceptable then nobody should be calling for Watson’s head because the stats from this year fall right in those categories (24 PPG 315 YPG).

If your going to take an average, shouldn't you throw out the game with the highest number of points/yards, and the game with the lowest? Actually you would probably just throw out he numbers for the UL-Lafayette game because it is outside of the 1st standard deviation.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

So, do you see what I mean now?

I see what you are saying but I don’t buy it that a coach can’t reach a certain level and not get any better. Just like guys can get better or worse they can also stay right where they are. It happens in every single aspect of life so why should coaching be immune to that? Barney’s Big 12 history showed us that you could expect 17-24 PPG and 300-350 YPG. If those types of offensive numbers are acceptable then nobody should be calling for Watson’s head because the stats from this year fall right in those categories (24 PPG 315 YPG).

Yep, of course they can stay the same. They might have one good year (Watson last season) and one bad year (Like watson this year) but there is a very good chance they will stay the same, like Watson I think has mostly been in the 50-60 rank, I think, not sure about that.

So, if Cottons numbers are super close to Watsons numbers, why do some people think Watson is a coaching super mind and Cotton in a dork?

See, I know why, its the Cant-coach-a-han lovers that build up Watson and tear down Cotton but really, it seems like they are just about the same.

I am not saying you are a Cant-coach-a-han lover, I am just saying those are the people that tear down Cotton and build up Watson. I happen to think they are both about average.

 

[skersfan]

May have been far worse.

Bo was a total loose cannon back then. Could have been in trouble with the NCAA, would not have had TO to help him understand his temper problems.

We are lucky Bo got the time to learn to be a head coach. He still is not a very good one, but he is working on it every single day. If TO was not here, he would be down the road very quickly.

TO is the only reason this program has started its turn around.

 

[Husker In Oklahoma]

Back on topic, having Cant-coach-a-han here as HC has really made me appreciate Husker football again. He brought the team to such a low that the losses stopped hurting and started to make me laugh. Now, they hurt again because Pelini knows what he is doing and has put the team back on track.

Bingo!! Couldn't have said it any better!!

 

[REDSTEEL]

Although very happy with the direction things are going with Pelini, I am not ready to call him successful yet at the head coaching position, has a winning record yes, but there is no guarantee we won't see more road bumps ahead, especially with this offense. Back to OG post, I would say that Pelini would have more than likely struggled if he was HC the first go round.

I'm not measuring success solely on win/loss. It's bigger than that. I'm basing it off of Pelini's holistic understanding of Husker culture and his ability to right the ship in the proper direction. Of course there are gonna be bumps ahead. Every HC goes through it, regardless. Pete Carroll & Bob Stoops are going through it this year. Dr. Tom went through it. That's inevitable.

While win/loss is part of the equation, it isn't the whole thing.

That "holistic understanding" and 50cents will get you 1/3 a cup of coffee somewhere. It will be about wins and losses, you can make book on that. Carroll and Stoops, both had down years this year and their recruiting is such that I'd about guarantee you that they will be back in the top 5 and vying for a national title in the next couple years. Right now Bo has done an excellent job with what he has had to work with. Last year a good offense and this year a great defense. Obviously the same coach being HC this year did not have the same results on O. There is not the guarantee that the same HC can have the same results on D next year.

Looking at threads about recruits who spurn us for another school will give you a look into how quickly a clunker of a season will turn around most of folks on Husker board. Check the job on Wats' --before season some were worried about Ohio State firing their coach and hiring Wats. After the offense tanked, there were many who wanted him fired. Same will happen to Bo if we misfire. It's the nature of the beast. If stoops or Carroll had a losing season next year, there would be intense pressure for a buyout. Bo will have 5 years to show what he can do with his recruiting and coaching at a minimum. I think he will do fine, annointing him as the messiah is a little premature.

It is unfair to do anything but be happy with the W/L Bo has put up. Whether he turns out to be the next coach to lead Husker football to a national title will depend on his ability to recruit. It always does. Here's hoping he becomes a master at recruiting.

Just wondering why everyone always tries to use the reason Wats is a good OC is because some posters (who only looked at yardage and big scores against some of the worst defenses) were afraid he would leave? People loved the hiring of Pederson and Callahan which made them just as wrong as those people. <_<

I would also argue that the same offense from last year wasn't that much different then this year. It blew out the Sunbelt teams and did nothing against any team that had a defense other then Iowa State where turnovers lost the game mostly.

Now would Pellini been any different coach today if he got the gig couple years ago probably. Would Nebraska had a worse five years under him then Callahan? Who know I can't imagine a worse 5 years. The only good I could see is that Pellini would not have let Nebraska run game get to the point where it is today.

 

[REDSTEEL]

:snacks:

 

[Husker In Oklahoma]

Wow. Way to make an INCREDIBLE leap! It's really, really difficult to sustain a program at the top. The best programs have down years. We might have had losing years anyway. And to say we'd be a top 5 power is just wishful thinking. Sure it's possible, but really, really unlikely. There are only 5 of those in the entire country and a host of good programs jostling for the spot.

I think not. Iill bet you NU is in the top ten sooner than five years pass. Once they get there, it will be hard to remove them. NU would have damn sure been better than 27-22 and TWO losing seasons under Bo. I believe we have one solid coach here at NU. Very good things coming in the near future. :thumbs

 

[father5]

Clownburger!?

:LOLtartar