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-I am very sorry that Lord had to change his number due to "fans" calling him. I fully understand that he was a kid then, but don;t use that as a cop out. He had an opportunity that is dreamed about for 99.9% of the nation. If he will take the perks (free education, board, etc.) then he gets the drawbacks to. Welcome to real life.

- I question his leadership nearly every loss he had was involved him trying to force 3 yds out of his run while people ran open and the other team blew our dors off in the 2nd half. I commend him for raising his brother, but interviews count as character judgement too. And where was his brother when the cops went to his apartment when he and his girlfriend got out of hand one night?

- Yes, I think that TD pass against KSU in 03 could have been his best play. HE broke several tackles, threw while being tackled, and hit his man for a TD. But, if replay existed, it wouldn't have counted. But its a cheap shot argument, moving on.

- You say he played hard and did his best. Hey listen, put me on the LA Dodgers, and I'll go at best 1-98 at the plate and will be a complete disaster in the field, but I'll do my best. I don;t think I'll be making the hall of fame.

-I stand by my argument that the Jammall Lord Expierience was a bad one.

 
-I am very sorry that Lord had to change his number due to "fans" calling him.  I fully understand that he was a kid then, but don;t use that as a cop out.  He had an opportunity that is dreamed about for 99.9% of the nation.  If he will take the perks (free education, board, etc.) then he gets the drawbacks to.  Welcome to real life.
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So since this college KID is getting a free education he deserves to have people call him on his PERSONAL number? That is flippin backwards. So anytime one of these 18-23 KIDS has a bad game we should be able to call them up and tell them how terrible they are? That makes since. :wacko: He may not have been Crouch or Frazier but he was a heck of a lot better then any of us. I sure wish every time I had a bad day at work I had to go home and have people call me a yell at me. Sounds like a lot of fun.

- You say he played hard and did his best.  Hey listen, put me on the LA Dodgers, and I'll go at best 1-98 at the plate and will be a complete disaster in the field, but I'll do my best.
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Being the Single season total offense leader in the History of Nebraska Football and #3 in Career yards is almost the same as you going 1 for 98 for the Dodgers. :bang Maybe your analogy would have worked if we were talking about Mike Grant.

Lord is one of the most under appreciated players ever at Nebraska. Give that guy the supporting cast of RB's that some of the other QB's had and people would be singing a different tune.

Anyway back to the topic. Those uniforms were an attempt by $Bill and Adidas to make some money. It didn't work. Those things are on the clearance rack at every sporting goods store in town. Sorry DJR. :thumbs

 
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Lord goes 10-3 and is hated (Career 17-7)
Taylor goes 7-5 and is loved (needs 10 wins ti tie Lord)

Something tells me that if Nebraska doesn't win the Big 12 next year, Taylor will be hated too.

I'm not knocking Taylor. I just find it wierd that a Guy can go 10-3 and be considered the worse in the country, while another Guy can go 7-5 and be considered the next Golden Boy.
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You cannot tell me that you watched the games in 03 and then watched Taylor this year and can honestly say that Lord was a better quarterback than Taylor. He was a tough ( and I mean the toughest kid on the team) competitor and was a total team player why as Lord (to me) seemed that he really only cared about himself as opposed to the team.

 
Lord goes 10-3 and is hated (Career 17-7)
Taylor goes 7-5 and is loved (needs 10 wins ti tie Lord)

Something tells me that if Nebraska doesn't win the Big 12 next year, Taylor will be hated too.

I'm not knocking Taylor. I just find it wierd that a Guy can go 10-3 and be considered the worse in the country, while another Guy can go 7-5 and be considered the next Golden Boy.
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You cannot tell me that you watched the games in 03 and then watched Taylor this year and can honestly say that Lord was a better quarterback than Taylor. He was a tough ( and I mean the toughest kid on the team) competitor and was a total team player why as Lord (to me) seemed that he really only cared about himself as opposed to the team.
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I'd take lord and the option offense any day.

 
Lord goes 10-3 and is hated (Career 17-7)
Taylor goes 7-5 and is loved (needs 10 wins ti tie Lord)

Something tells me that if Nebraska doesn't win the Big 12 next year, Taylor will be hated too.

I'm not knocking Taylor. I just find it wierd that a Guy can go 10-3 and be considered the worse in the country, while another Guy can go 7-5 and be considered the next Golden Boy.
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You cannot tell me that you watched the games in 03 and then watched Taylor this year and can honestly say that Lord was a better quarterback than Taylor. He was a tough ( and I mean the toughest kid on the team) competitor and was a total team player why as Lord (to me) seemed that he really only cared about himself as opposed to the team.
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I'd take lord and the option offense any day.
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Yes we know that. You have been saying that for what 2 years now? :dumdum

 
Why not stick a big OU on the side of the helmet since we stole the triple option from Oklahoma by your logic Bernard.... Think before you post.

 
Yeah that was in '02 and we didn't do so hot that year so we ditched em.
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They were ugly long before that team went 7-7. if they had gone 14-0 thoose duds still woulda been ugly and would have been ditched after the season.

the double stripes came back in 2004 and the team went 5-6-- but no one's declaring that the double-stripes should be burned b/c of it.

Somehow a Nike mentality snuck into the locker room in 2002 and puked out those uniforms.

As for Lord. terrible QB. but he was the best QB we had on the roster 2002-2003. The fact that he was the best QB on the roster was not his fault.

Not to mention the guy had to follow Frazier/Brook, Frost, Newcombe/Crouch. That's a hard task for anybody, let alone a guy who should have been playing safety.

 
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"So since this college KID is getting a free education he deserves to have people call him on his PERSONAL number? That is flippin backwards. So anytime one of these 18-23 KIDS has a bad game we should be able to call them up and tell them how terrible they are? That makes since. :wacko: He may not have been Crouch or Frazier but he was a heck of a lot better then any of us. I sure wish every time I had a bad day at work I had to go home and have people call me a yell at me. Sounds like a lot of fun."

-Not at all what I said. Those people are jackasses; you know it as well as I. I'm sorry he was in the spotlight, but being a major college starter might do that to you. ANd yes, he was better at QB than me, I'm so glad thats now the yardstick on how to measure full scholarship athletes.

"Lets give a full scholarship and a wonderful opportunity to this man because he can run the option better than a 28 year old balding marketing guy." :WTH

Being the Single season total offense leader in the History of Nebraska Football and #3 in Career yards is almost the same as you going 1 for 98 for the Dodgers. :bang Maybe your analogy would have worked if we were talking about Mike Grant.

-I'm also quite estatic that we are using stats alone as a measure of success. Every single baseball player who hit 38 HR's for a last place team, Kobe cranking out 32 a night for a medicore Lakers team, and Lamont Jordan of the Raiders all appreciate too. Bottom line, his record as a starter speaks volumes, more than 150+ yards rushing while getting stomped by 36 to PSU and losing at home to Texas do. By that logic Lord was better than Fraizer, Berringer, Frost, Crouch and Gill. :bang

Lord is one of the most under appreciated players ever at Nebraska. Give that guy the supporting cast of RB's that some of the other QB's had and people would be singing a different tune.

-And if my aunt had a package she'd be my uncle. Why pass the buck for a guy who, according to his skewed stats, shoudl have been able to win a title by himself?

 
If he will take the perks (free education, board, etc.) then he gets the drawbacks to. Welcome to real life.
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  -Not at all what I said.
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Actually the above statement looks like you say he should have to take all the phones calls because it comes with being a D-1 player. Maybe I am reading this wrong but that is what it looks like to me.

"Lets give a full scholarship and a wonderful opportunity to this man because he can run the option better than a 28 year old balding marketing guy."   :WTH
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You know what I meant. But if they did let you play QB you would have to take those phones calls. It comes with the perks. Free education equals the right for people to harass you at home. It's called real life. :wacko:

-I'm also quite estatic that we are using stats alone as a measure of success.  Every single baseball player who hit 38 HR's for a last place team, Kobe cranking out 32 a night for a medicore Lakers team, and Lamont Jordan of the Raiders all appreciate too.  Bottom line, his record as a starter speaks volumes, more than 150+ yards rushing while getting stomped by 36 to PSU and losing at home to Texas do.  By that logic Lord was better than Fraizer, Berringer, Frost, Crouch and Gill.   :bang
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So you can't use stats to measure how good someone was? If you only use wins then Lienart is the best ever. Or Ken Dorsey is right up there with the best ever. As far as your baseball stat. So was A-Rod not very good when he played for the Rangers since that team was terrible? Did he only become good once he signed with the Yankees? What is wrong wtih Kobe averaging 34 points a game? He is probably the best flippin player in the NBA. Maybe the rest of his team stinks. Nice stretch with Jordan by the way. :wacko: How about Barry Sanders? Do most of his stats not count since he played on a lot of crappy teams. I mean his record alone should speak volumes. :bang (No I'm not saying Lord was a good as those guys at the respective games. Just examples.)

Also if you would of looked earlier in my post I said that Lord was not Frazier or Crouch. Deny it all you want but Lord was one of the best running QB's we have had. His passing was average but he could run pretty well.

So since his record as a starter was only 17-10 his stats mean nothing? That is outstanding. In that case Barret Ruuds tackle record means nothing since he played on the 7-7 and 5-6 teams. So does that mean Phil Ellis was a better ILB then Ruud since he won NC's? Zac Taylors passing yards mean nothing either since that team was only 8-4. Or Porkchops stats since he has a crappy record as a starter. The last two got stomped by KU and lost to Texas Tech at home. Does that speak volumes. Ross and Ruud got stomped by 60 by Tech what does that say about them? For the record Crouch also lost to Texas at home. What does that say about him as a QB? He also was on the team that got stomped by CU by 27. Does that speak volumes about his QB skill?

Why pass the buck for a guy who, according to his skewed stats, shoudl have been able to win a title by himself?
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Because there are way to many people that blame Lord for the problems the Big Red had during his run at QB. Lord gave that team and this state everything he had. He took a beating week in and week out. What did he get in return? A bunch of jokers calling him at home and yelling at him. That is super.

As far as winning a title by himself that is lame. It is football it takes 11 guys not just 1.

 
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