Why can't we be like bama?

irafreak said:
Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?
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ya, I'm being confusing... admittedly. I agree with the OP, and am looking forward to all that is being talked about in terms of re-crafting power football. With the coaching, I'm just trying to turn it around in my own mind - what would motivate Bo and Carl, for instance, to share what they've learned/crafted to defeat the spread offenses?... it's been answered by all the guys talking about information sharing, visiting, etc.

 
Hskr86 said:
Nexus said:
I've read elsewhere that T.O. and Milt Tenopir have been having whiteboard sessions with Bo, Cotton & Watson. Pelini is probably following through on his word when he says he wants a power running style of football. If anyone is qualified on matters of power running football, it's T.O. and Tenopir.

As far as what knapplc raised in his post concerning Saban, it wouldn't surprise me. Afterall it's been said that T.O. and Charlie McBride consulted with Bobby Bowden sometime in the early 90's before we went on our 3 NC title runs.
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I have to plead some ignorance on this topic... why would coaches share their secrets? I know it happens, but I just don't really understand it (?)
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It's really quite similar to any other industry. Sales staff from competing businesses share secrets and information. There was a local high school football coach around here that was willing to give his playbook to any team's coach they played. His mentality was that if his team executed the play correctly that the opposing team wouldn't be able to stop it even if they knew it was coming. More often than not, the difference between a good defense and a great defense is execution. I think more times than not, coaches exchange ideas in terms of philosophy rather than simply handing someone their playbook.

 
anyone can simply watch game film and quickly see what play calling techniques are being employed, it isn't rocket science.

 
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Hskr86 said:
irafreak said:
Are you saying you gave it a minus 1 because of the "wonder" of the coaches? I'm confused?
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ya, I'm being confusing... admittedly. I agree with the OP, and am looking forward to all that is being talked about in terms of re-crafting power football. With the coaching, I'm just trying to turn it around in my own mind - what would motivate Bo and Carl, for instance, to share what they've learned/crafted to defeat the spread offenses?... it's been answered by all the guys talking about information sharing, visiting, etc.
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The SEC has had no problem dealing with the Big 12 Spread offense. I think the only one for the Big 12 in a long time was OSU vs UGA. On a side note I have credible sources that there was a friendly visit in Lincoln just to catch up between Stoops and Pelini before the TX game. (No rule against it just saying)
 
North Alabama Husker said:
After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title. :rant
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We can't, don't, or won't ever be like Bama...

Because we are Nebraska

 
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ESPY said:
There's nothing quite like good ol' smashmouth football. Isn't that how we won all our titles?

Strong defense & running attack a recipe for success? I think so.
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I think everyone is going to get their wish because:

a) the type of QBs we're getting

B) The style of offense we ran in the Holiday bowl.

It was obvious that our best offensive players were Burkhead and Helu. I loved seeing them in the game at the same time, and seeing us running the Wildcat with Burkhead. I think Watson pry realized this early on, he just didn't have time to completely change the system mid-season, but with a couple weeks of prep he showed us a glimpse of the future.

 
I don't want nebraska to be alabama at any time except on the field. Our fans and tradition are just fine the way they are I was just saying I like the way alabama plays smash mouth football.

walksalone said:
North Alabama Husker said:
After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title. :rant
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We can't, don't, or won't ever be like Bama...

Because we are Nebraska
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North Alabama Husker said:
After seeing Alabama and Nick Saban win the NC this year it has got me wondering why cant we be the same kind of team. Saban is all about the defense and mostly the secondary, much like Bo, Saban is fiery and expects nothing less than perfect exacution, much like Bo, Saban is hard on his assistant coaches, much like Bo, and Saban has a OC that wants to run run run then use play action passing to pick up big chunks of yardage, nothing like what we have. I just don't understand why we think we can't run out of i-formations more often and have to pass the ball to win. If you watch as much football as I do you quickly realize that defense and a good running is the recipe for a national title. Our program is a lot like Alabama except for the fact that they have a lot more in state talent to recruit from. If we could move our offense to more of a running style that relys a lot less on timing and the qb we would have a lot better chance of being even more like bama and win a national title. :rant
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Sadly, a big percentage of HuskerNation wants us to "pretend" we can win big here in the midwest with fluffball. They were deliriously happy when Callahan came in to "modernize" our offense. Oh, it looked great vs the creampuffs but was repeatably stuffed like sardines vs any decent defense.

But we got boatloads of garbage yards and points when down 4 or 5 TDs and it made our offensive stats look great! All the losing got to be too much though and they had to grudgingly conceed their "NFL genius" had to go.

We can only hope Bo realizes the only way NU returns to premier status is when we recruit and develop vicious road grader OLinemen with the will to pancake defenses. When we have that with Bo's defense, we'll be "back" in a big, big way. Let sCUm have SW back and let's return to our true destiny of steamrolling people.

 
knapplc said:
There was some kibbutzing between Saban and Bo prior to the MNC game this year. Scuttlebutt I've heard is that Bo and/or Carl and/or Watson are going to be visiting Alabama during the offseason to have Saban return the favor by sharing info on what he does and how/why it works.

Somewhere buried in the middle of last season Bo talked about Alabama and being like them, so your wishes are probably going to be granted soon.
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I remember when Osborne and McBride flew down to FSU to to give Bowden and Andrews pointers about stopping the option. The following year we ended up playing FSU (1994) for a title.

 
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