Your 2023 Nebraska Cornhuskers
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Gotcha. You had said that we just didn't have the right guy to form a "cohesive offensive plan."
I honestly felt like I observed the exact opposite; I felt like Frost's scheme, playbook, & philosophy on offense were good. At times almost bordering on great. But he & his coaches just didn't seem to be able to coach the players to be in the best place to perform great, and they couldn't get them into the right mindset to step onto the field and perform confidently & competently.
And we weren't just "not performing great." The team routinely looked like hammered dog s*** out there. But it wasn't because the game plan was too predictable or simple, etc.
I don't think that had anything to do with what the plan was on paper. I think the coaches sucked at coaching. And although it's waaaaaay too early to tell, Rhule seems to be more focused on what needs to be done during practice time, instead of just living up in the clouds with X's & O's being what wins a game.
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sho
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Fair point. Frost did have good schemes, but couldn't teach discipline. That I feel was the biggest issue, boneheaded mistakes too many times. And they were not emotionally stable enough to overcome their mistakes. Seems like one mistake got in their head and led to a snowball. I do think Rhule will be much more detail oriented and demand excellence. I'm not sure if Frost demanded anything.
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Yeah. Maybe he was demanding it in his head, or saying it here or there, but wasn't communicating it in real leadership form to his staff and his players.
I think he might have had some big blind spots where he took things for granted. Like, he just expected that the players knew "what playing for Nebraska meant," and how much they should respect that and how that in turn should have been some kind of automatic feedback loop of motivation. And I think he was dead wrong.
He wasn't a good motivator, he didn't realize it, and he didn't realize how much he was lacking in that department.
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Fru
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Excluding 2022, this is how Scott’s offenses fared in the B1G https://www.espn.com/college-football/stats/team/_/season/2015/group/5
2018 2nd
2019 5th
2020 4th
2021 2nd
All the other teams in those years that finished in the top 5 within the conference were bowl eligible… except Neb.
Scott’s offenses were able rack up a lot of yards, but struggled in the red zone. Like others have said, attention to detail likely doomed him. One less drive killing false start here, one less turnover there.
I’d also throw in a lack of focus on special teams as well. Having a reliable kicking game or getting better field position off a KO or Punt would’ve certainly helped. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but man it seemed like every drive started at our own 15.
2018 2nd
2019 5th
2020 4th
2021 2nd
All the other teams in those years that finished in the top 5 within the conference were bowl eligible… except Neb.
Scott’s offenses were able rack up a lot of yards, but struggled in the red zone. Like others have said, attention to detail likely doomed him. One less drive killing false start here, one less turnover there.
I’d also throw in a lack of focus on special teams as well. Having a reliable kicking game or getting better field position off a KO or Punt would’ve certainly helped. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but man it seemed like every drive started at our own 15.
MyBloodIsRed16
All-Conference
any idea who the DB in the gray jersey is? I'm sure its been mentioned but I can't remember.
Husker in WI
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Undone
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Honestly though, I think that Short Side Option read is really good.
I think the summary with Frost is, he had these blind spots. He took way too much for granted. Seems that he assumed that the input they put in at UCF was where the success came from, and that if they just reproduced the input that Nebraska would be successful.
Then when success didn't occur, he was either oblivious that the input (coaching, practice format, motivational techniques, whatever) wasn't working or was just too stubborn to change what he was doing.
Rhule at least has more seasons of college football coaching under his belt.
I think the summary with Frost is, he had these blind spots. He took way too much for granted. Seems that he assumed that the input they put in at UCF was where the success came from, and that if they just reproduced the input that Nebraska would be successful.
Then when success didn't occur, he was either oblivious that the input (coaching, practice format, motivational techniques, whatever) wasn't working or was just too stubborn to change what he was doing.
Rhule at least has more seasons of college football coaching under his belt.
ColoradoHusk
Heisman Trophy Winner
Along with being successful at two different schools, in two different areas of the country.
Some may be nervous because he failed at the NFL, but he can use that failure as a good learning tool. Plus, coaching NFL guys is different than coaching college kids, which very few have been successful at doing both.
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Yep. I think it's a solid prediction that it'll probably only take Rhule two seasons here to post better W/L results than Frost's best season here. Which isn't saying very much, as Frost's best season was 5-7.
But there's little doubt in my mind even this early on that we're going to at least be better. Not a Kool-Aid chugging take there at all, just saying "better."