Your cell phone is watching you

[T_O_Bull]

When I'm really away from home for a period of time I leave my phones at home and buy a burner phone.

T_O_B

 

[HUSKER 37]

I believe they can help find lost phones if you have your gps on, but its just a general area. I personally would mind if i was a criminal. I think if they are trying to find a criminal it is fine, and i think its okay to not have a warrant in a dangerous situation like that. It could also help with runaways/kidnappings. Some things you just can't worry about and this is one of them. The government is setting up more and more measures to control the entire population. I hate that they do that, and are trying to limit our freedoms, but at the end of the day, we live in a free country, and it could be much worse elseware. We are all going to die one day and then does it really matter if they could track millions of people?

Must remember to charge up my phone and make sure I'm buried with it..you know..Just in case.

 

[rawhide]

Feds just snip a little freedom here. A little there. Pretty soon, voila; we are Nazi Germany. I know, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.

Notice how I got the french thingie in there.

 

[NUance]

Feds just snip a little freedom here. A little there. Pretty soon, voila; we are Nazi Germany. I know, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN.

Notice how I got the french thingie in there.

+1 for the WWII reference. :thumbs :

 

[Muck]

I wonder how comfortable people are with this kind of thing. Do you care that your whereabouts are known to your cell service provider? Is it a privacy issue, or no big deal?

Yes police departments being able to access location data is absolutely a 4th Amendment issue. Sometime in the near future a case regarding it will make it's way up the system to SCOTUS for a ruling.

Earlier this year the Court ruled that the use of warrantless GPS tracking by law enforcement was a 4th Amendment violation. When told by the the DOJ attorneys that they believed that LE should be able to monitor anyone they wanted 24/7 the justices almost unanimously reacted in shock regardless of political leanings. Given that the accessing of cell provider data without court oversight is widely seen as an attempt at an end around of the Court's ruling I am reasonably certain that accessing geolocation data without first obtaining a warrant will also eventually be restricted.

As it should be.

 

[NUance]

fyi, you can block the GPS capabilities of your cell phone. LINK But I'm not sure that this would prevent a law enforcement agency with a subpoena from finding you.

There are other ways of tracking cell phone location aside from GPS. UTDOA (Uplink Time Difference of Arrival) and power measurement triangulation give cell providers a rough estimate of your location in order to manage cell traffic.

 

[huKSer]

I believe they can help find lost phones if you have your gps on, but its just a general area. I personally would mind if i was a criminal. I think if they are trying to find a criminal it is fine, and i think its okay to not have a warrant in a dangerous situation like that. It could also help with runaways/kidnappings. Some things you just can't worry about and this is one of them. The government is setting up more and more measures to control the entire population. I hate that they do that, and are trying to limit our freedoms, but at the end of the day, we live in a free country, and it could be much worse elseware. We are all going to die one day and then does it really matter if they could track millions of people?

Must remember to charge up my phone and make sure I'm buried with it..you know..Just in case.

Poor Jimmy Hoffa. He died before his time (to have a cell phone so he can have a decent burial away from the Meadowlands)

 

[sd'sker]

Malte Spitz's TED Talk Takes On Mobile Phone Privacy Debate (VIDEO)

"If you have access to this information, you can see what society is doing. If you have access to this information you can control your society. This is a blueprint for countries like China and Iran," Splitz said while demonstrating for the audience a graphic of his personal connections.

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"Law enforcement agencies are looking for a needle, but what are they doing with the haystack?"

asked Rep. Edward Markey, a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, in response to the report on requests for carrier data.​

Spitz ended his TED talk by emphasizing that technology consumers are the key to challenging privacy norms in today's society. "Every time you use a mobile phone," he cautioned, "let it be a reminder that you have to fight for self determination in the digital age."