Do we have a really good coordinator for a head coach?

[skersfan]

BRI

think about what you just said. Do you really see a difference. A defense that is outmanned, under coached, lost, with young talent on the sidelines. Seems pretty much the same to me.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

You get what you pay for. We went cheap with hope. We have to be willing to stand behind him for awhile yet. I only wish he had the ability to hire for the good of the progrtam, rather than fitting into his idea of what should work, IE yes man. Until he allows his assitants the right to do their job, freeing him up to do his job, well at least learn how to do his job this is going to continue. The greatest error he made was not going after Stoops, if he had, his life would have been easier.

Again that might have been Tom again staying the cheap ship, and not allowing us to pay the going rate of a top OC or DC.

I am not sure where I stand on that.

I agree things need to change, but firing Bo is not the answer at this time. But if we continue to see teams not prepared, coaches not making timely and good changes during the game, kids not knowing what they are supposed to do. We have to consider what our options are and what we are willing to take. There are many out there that do not like Bo, for many reasons. There voices are being heard at the University, trust me, I know, I got a letter two weeks ago.

But I am tired of the kids being blamed for these games. There is only one responsible for where we are at and that is the Head Coach. Lay the blame where it belongs. Bo is overpaid, under performing, somewhat an eyesore for this program. He does great things here and I think basically a good guy. But he is not qualified to be a head coach at Nebraska. He has to get better, in his recruting, his hiring and his media image. Allthough he handled a tough game very well with the media. That is a plus in my books. I expected a much angrier Bo than what we saw last night. I saw frustration, hurt, disbelief and disappointment. All deserved, but handled better than in the past.

Agree with most of what you said skersfan..................but do you think that they'll open up the checkbook for a new coach should he leave or they get rid of him?

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

BRI

think about what you just said. Do you really see a difference. A defense that is outmanned, under coached, lost, with young talent on the sidelines. Seems pretty much the same to me.

I see the difference as far as the history of the program is concerned. I see a coach who cares about the history of Nebraska while allowing that history to be involved in the current program. THAT is a huge difference to me.....................while I don't like what I'm seeing I've not forgotten about where we were not too long ago.

 

[HuskerThor]

I guess my biggest concern is he's not willing to allow the defensive coordinator to run the defense that he wants. It's gonna be Bo's way or else they won't get the job. He needs to let that go, the 2-gap isn't working, work with the talent you have and simplify the defense for the personnel we have. You can't run it.....................simple as that! If we lose Bo right now, no one will come here and this program will be in the tank for the next 10 to 15 years.

HAHA! We are in the tank right now.

Really? One loss and we are in the tank? This has to be the definition for irrational thinking? Apparently you weren't around for the Callahan years!

I have around since 1969, so don't tell me what I am or I am not, thank you very much. We are in the tank.

The defense is the same as it was last year. Sucky! There is no improvement over last year. That represents in the tank to me.

If there has been NO improvement from last year to this year, what makes you think we will see any improvement with the upcoming conference games?

Did you or have you seen any signs of improvement? Your thinking is more along the lines of denial.

 

[skersfan]

I doubt it.

 

[HuskerThor]

BRI

think about what you just said. Do you really see a difference. A defense that is outmanned, under coached, lost, with young talent on the sidelines. Seems pretty much the same to me.

I see the difference as far as the history of the program is concerned. I see a coach who cares about the history of Nebraska while allowing that history to be involved in the current program. THAT is a huge difference to me.....................while I don't like what I'm seeing I've not forgotten about where we were not too long ago.

I also have not forgotten where we were. It to long ago. Pre Callahan was better than this roller coaster ride.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I guess my biggest concern is he's not willing to allow the defensive coordinator to run the defense that he wants. It's gonna be Bo's way or else they won't get the job. He needs to let that go, the 2-gap isn't working, work with the talent you have and simplify the defense for the personnel we have. You can't run it.....................simple as that! If we lose Bo right now, no one will come here and this program will be in the tank for the next 10 to 15 years.

HAHA! We are in the tank right now.

Really? One loss and we are in the tank? This has to be the definition for irrational thinking? Apparently you weren't around for the Callahan years!

I have around since 1969, so don't tell me what I am or I am not, thank you very much. We are in the tank.

The defense is the same as it was last year. Sucky! There is no improvement over last year. That represents in the tank to me.

If there has been NO improvement from last year to this year, what makes you think we will see any improvement with the upcoming conference games?

Did you or have you seen any signs of improvement? Your thinking is more along the lines of denial.

Oh good, one of those fans that's been a fan longer than anyone else so they know more than everyone else. Don't care how long you've been a fan, you don't have a crystal ball to see what's going to happen the rest of the year do you? I'll tell you what.....................you go ahead and quit on Bo and if the Huskers figure it out don't come back claiming that you were wrong and you should've stuck by the coaching staff. I'm not ready to give up on them yet, I'm not emotional like that. We aren't in the tank and until we lose 6 or more games in a season I'm not going to say we are in the tank. So just like my opinion means nothing to you the same can be said from this side of table.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I doubt it.

Then all I can say is that people should start lowering their expectations and hope that we get "lucky" with one of these coaches. Cause until we get the money together to pay Stoops, Meyer, Saban type of money we aren't going to get a proven commodity here and I know you know that.

 

[HuskerThor]

I doubt it.

Then all I can say is that people should start lowering their expectations and hope that we get "lucky" with one of these coaches. Cause until we get the money together to pay Stoops, Meyer, Saban type of money we aren't going to get a proven commodity here and I know you know that.

So now we can't pay enough to get a better coach? Which is it, you want a better coach or are you sticking by this coach? Sounds like you're talking out both sides of your mouth.

Another thing is that you said "I must not have been here for the Callahan years". I just told you that I have been. You took it from there. I neve said I know more than anyone. I don't even post that much since folks like you enjoy putting words in others mouths.

I fully enjoy reading others comments and/or opinions. I even value some of the posters inputs. I use some of them when friends and I have our Husker conversations.

 

[skersfan]

BRI,

It really boils down to one booster, as too how long this will fly. He was resposnible for getting Bo, paying the bill on Pedy and Clownahan. If he has had enough it could happen and happen quickly. But I do not think that is the situation. Still in Bo's corner the last time I spoke to him.

I am trying to be positive on this, as I know what would follow. I do not want another experiment. Bo is better than what the University would most likely spend money for.

I do not see Chris Peterson a Patterson coming to Nebraska. Those are the only two that I would want, Petrino could make us a winner again, but the worry and embarssment of him walking the sidelines at Nebraska would drive me away as a fan. More dislike for him than I had for Pelini. So we are stuck between a rock and hard place. We have to wait this out. I hope Bo starts to learn how to be a head coach. He is just in over his head. If he had qualified a OC and DC he would be better off. But that may be a money deal with Tom, which I think is the problem. HIre within, make it cheap. Puts a lot more on Bo to do while learning. He really is in a no win situation. Trying to learn a job that is one of the toughest in the world, be a CEO, face of the program, lead recruiter, man what a load on your plate, and then truly be the OC and DC on top of it is rough.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

I doubt it.

Then all I can say is that people should start lowering their expectations and hope that we get "lucky" with one of these coaches. Cause until we get the money together to pay Stoops, Meyer, Saban type of money we aren't going to get a proven commodity here and I know you know that.

So now we can't pay enough to get a better coach? Which is it, you want a better coach or are you sticking by this coach? Sounds like you're talking out both sides of your mouth.

Another thing is that you said "I must not have been here for the Callahan years". I just told you that I have been. You took it from there. I neve said I know more than anyone. I don't even post that much since folks like you enjoy putting words in others mouths.

I fully enjoy reading others comments and/or opinions. I even value some of the posters inputs. I use some of them when friends and I have our Husker conversations.

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth?! I never said I don't support this coach, the issue has been risen in several different threads including this one that we aren't paying the money up front for a proven coach. We are paying for someone that we are willing to take a chance on hoping that it will work out. That's what I was talking about. Also, you saying you've been a "fan since 1969" implies just what you wanted it to. I should bow down to your greatness since you've been a fan since 1969 and because you've been a fan for so much longer than me, approximately 1992, somehow your opinion means more than mine. I believe that's the way you were trying to come across, but that's the internet for you. You should read the entire thread before you start picking out things here and there to comment on.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

BRI,

It really boils down to one booster, as too how long this will fly. He was resposnible for getting Bo, paying the bill on Pedy and Clownahan. If he has had enough it could happen and happen quickly. But I do not think that is the situation. Still in Bo's corner the last time I spoke to him.

I am trying to be positive on this, as I know what would follow. I do not want another experiment. Bo is better than what the University would most likely spend money for.

I do not see Chris Peterson a Patterson coming to Nebraska. Those are the only two that I would want, Petrino could make us a winner again, but the worry and embarssment of him walking the sidelines at Nebraska would drive me away as a fan. More dislike for him than I had for Pelini. So we are stuck between a rock and hard place. We have to wait this out. I hope Bo starts to learn how to be a head coach. He is just in over his head. If he had qualified a OC and DC he would be better off. But that may be a money deal with Tom, which I think is the problem. HIre within, make it cheap. Puts a lot more on Bo to do while learning. He really is in a no win situation. Trying to learn a job that is one of the toughest in the world, be a CEO, face of the program, lead recruiter, man what a load on your plate, and then truly be the OC and DC on top of it is rough.

Definately agree that he needs a proven DC and OC, not this on the job training coordinators. It would take alot of the load off his shoulders and free him up to be a better head coach. I think he'll learn, but we'll have to deal with alot of 8 or 9 win seasons until he figures it out if not less wins. I know there's a lot more going on behind the scenes that most of us don't know so I try to remember those things when the road gets tough.

 

[Hayseed]

Bo is a really good defensive coordinator. Look what he did his first year as our coordinator under Solich. Look what he did at Oklahoma. Look what he did at LSU. All great jobs as coordinator. But look what happens when he has to choose a staff, run the team, oversee recruiting....it has not been pretty. I really like Bo a lot and I really want him to be successful. I am just not sure if we will ever be more than a 9-10 win team that always loses big/important games and always has that one game where we lose to someone we shouldn't lose to.

I think it's the same problem Solich had and the majority of coaches have....inability to land enough big recruits. They do a fine job with ordinary players but I have news for you, they could coach me for a hundred years and it would never make me a top athlete.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

Bottom line Thor, I think we both want the same things, we just have different ways of going about it. We're all a little pissed off today......................no hard feelings.

 

[sd'sker]

Bo is a really good defensive coordinator. Look what he did his first year as our coordinator under Solich. Look what he did at Oklahoma. Look what he did at LSU. All great jobs as coordinator. But look what happens when he has to choose a staff, run the team, oversee recruiting....it has not been pretty. I really like Bo a lot and I really want him to be successful. I am just not sure if we will ever be more than a 9-10 win team that always loses big/important games and always has that one game where we lose to someone we shouldn't lose to.

I think it's the same problem Solich had and the majority of coaches have....inability to land enough big recruits. They do a fine job with ordinary players but I have news for you, they could coach me for a hundred years and it would never make me a top athlete.

well, yeah, you would be 100 years old. no way could you keep up with 18-22 year olds.