Paradoxical Seasons

[husker_99]

You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right?

yes i do.

 

[husker_99]

This post should have ended the argument:

Alright stats boy:

I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them:

Klein in 2011

317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry

McCoy in 2011

129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC

RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him.

Colter

2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC

2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC

Miller

2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC

2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC

Robinson

2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC

2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC

As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12.

Guys, husker_99 isn't even listening to your points. I can't decide if he's an excellent troll, willfully ignoring your arguments, or incapable of seeing anything other than his own viewpoint. I'm leaning towards trolling since he won't pin down his point and keeps shifting the argument.

husker_99,

If you really aren't trolling, then clearly spell out your point for us in a sentence or two.

No it's simple they are making points i never was talking about. they assumed which is their biggest mistake.

That's an evasion. You still haven't clearly stated your point. What point are you making/defending?

well part of this thread got moved.

 

[husker_99]

You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right?

Stop running your mouth.

ladies first

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right?

Stop running your mouth.

ladies first

Wasn't even quoting you.

 

[RedDenver]

This post should have ended the argument:

Alright stats boy:

I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them:

Klein in 2011

317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry

McCoy in 2011

129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC

RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him.

Colter

2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC

2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC

Miller

2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC

2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC

Robinson

2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC

2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC

As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12.

Guys, husker_99 isn't even listening to your points. I can't decide if he's an excellent troll, willfully ignoring your arguments, or incapable of seeing anything other than his own viewpoint. I'm leaning towards trolling since he won't pin down his point and keeps shifting the argument.

husker_99,

If you really aren't trolling, then clearly spell out your point for us in a sentence or two.

No it's simple they are making points i never was talking about. they assumed which is their biggest mistake.

That's an evasion. You still haven't clearly stated your point. What point are you making/defending?

well part of this thread got moved.

Still evading. What point are you making/defending?

 

[Saunders]

Do you even like the Huskers!?.....

i don't even know anymore since i came to this board. Seems like if you don't drink the kool-aid don't bother posting.

http://en.wikipedia..../Martyr_complex

once again another fail by saunders. i'm not surprised though. I'm not claiming to be a martyr.

 

[husker_99]

Still evading. What point are you making/defending?

that there were no dual threat qb's in the Big 12 as good as robinson, miller, and kolter. I said McCoy, Griffin, Klein which had put up comparable numbers.

 

[husker_99]

Do you even like the Huskers!?.....

i don't even know anymore since i came to this board. Seems like if you don't drink the kool-aid don't bother posting.

http://en.wikipedia..../Martyr_complex

once again another fail by saunders. i'm not surprised though. I'm not claiming to be a martyr.

go away troll.

 

[Saunders]

Still evading. What point are you making/defending?

that there were no dual threat qb's in the Big 12 as good as robinson, miller, and kolter. I said McCoy, Griffin, Klein which had put up comparable numbers.

Of the Big 12 guys, only Griffin was in the same league as a runner. That's not even debatable.

 

[Saunders]

go away troll.

Call people names then cry that people are mean to you.

Rinse. Repeat.

BRILLIANT!!!

 

[RedDenver]

Still evading. What point are you making/defending?

that there were no dual threat qb's in the Big 12 as good as robinson, miller, and kolter. I said McCoy, Griffin, Klein which had put up comparable numbers.

So your point is that McCoy, Griffin, Klein are comparable to robinson, miller, and kolter (I assume as runners based on the rest of the thread). Given that you've said stats don't lie, how do you explain this:

Alright stats boy:

I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them:

Klein in 2011

317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry

McCoy in 2011

129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC

RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him.

Colter

2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC

2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC

Miller

2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC

2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC

Robinson

2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC

2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC

As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12.

 

[Mavric]

5 YPC is significantly greater than 3 YPC

so? that just means they had less rushing attempts.

You do realize that the point of yards per carry is to normalize for different number of rushes attempted, right?

yes i do.

:dunno

 

[husker_99]

Still evading. What point are you making/defending?

that there were no dual threat qb's in the Big 12 as good as robinson, miller, and kolter. I said McCoy, Griffin, Klein which had put up comparable numbers.

So your point is that McCoy, Griffin, Klein are comparable to robinson, miller, and kolter (I assume as runners based on the rest of the thread). Given that you've said stats don't lie, how do you explain this:

Alright stats boy:

I will break down the rushing attempts, YPC, and total yards based on Sports-Reference.com from each QB we are talking about in the years we played them:

Klein in 2011

317 attempts, 1100 yards at 3.47 per carry

McCoy in 2011

129 attempts, 348 yards at 2.7 YPC

RG3 we saw in Bo's first season as HC. I'm not going to even include him.

Colter

2011) 135 attempts - 654 yards at 4.84 YPC

2012) 170 attempts - 894 yards at 5.25 YPC

Miller

2011) 159 attempts - 715 yards at 4.49 YPC

2012) 227 attempts - 1271 yards at 5.6 YPC

Robinson

2011) 221 attempts - 1176 yards at 5.32 YPC

2012) 177 attempts - 1266 yards at 7.15 YPC

As you see from the data above, the QBs that we have faced twice in two years have all averaged more per carry than both of the QBS you named and all three had more attempts than one of the QBs you named. By these numbers, I am going to conclude that as a whole, The Big Ten Spread Option QBs in the conversation are better runners and more explosive runners. They also get to carry the football a lot more than we saw QBs do in the Big 12.

look at totals and previous two seasons McCoy rushed for more than 500 yards. I already posted all my stats. Average's don't matter when total is comparable.

 

[In the Deed the Glory]

Take this stupid unrelated argument to the woodshed husker_99. You just keep dragging it out and it is annoying to read when some of us are trying to discuss the actual topic of this thread.

 

[The Dude]

I'd take Klein over Miller or Robinson, easily. He might not have been as explosive or agile a runner as those two guys, but that didn't prevent him from being more effective. He was a tank. 50 rushing TDs in 2 years? Get outta here.