Will Bo Pelini ever win a National Championship at Nebraska (Poll)

[It'sNotAFakeID]

This is almost off topic from the direction of this thread, but te poll should be will Pelini ever win a conference championship. We really need to let the whole NC thing die, almost like you need the stars to align a bit of that to happen. Also could be when will we beat a top ten team again

Sorry. You can start a new thread with that poll question if you like.

I don't believe in lowering the standards of Nebraska just because some of you have a crush on Bo Pelini.

A conference Championship is a goal, but it's not the ultimate goal. If I posed the conference championship question, it would then make the conference championship seem as if it is some sort of elusive, difficult to obtain, unachievable standard, when the fact is, not only is it achievable, IMO, Nebraska should compete for them every year. If said Conference Championship was won, then Bo supporters would tell the naysayers, "see, we told you he could win a CC game", as if that validates his entire career here.

The fact is, the last six years have not been as good, or bad as some would say. They have not produced CC's or NC's, and slowly but surely, 9 wins has become a standard here. I will stick to my belief that a good coach with a good staff not only wins CC games at Nebraska, but competes for NC's. The goal is always to win them all.

Sure, but typically only one team can achieve that goal.

So what do you do when you can't reach that goal? Do you just give up and call the season a failure? Baylor came into the season sort of under the radar and finished the regular season 11-1. Is that season a failure? At some point, you have to accept a certain level of success in order to prevent yourself from being absolutely crushed when we can't win them all. For some, that's 9 wins. For others it's 11 wins and conference championships. To some those expectations are way too low, to others those expectations are way too high.

Personally, I just want to see a team not have to fight against a team it shouldn't have to fight against and compete in the games that are against teams who are perceived to be better than them (i.e. ranked higher). If we don't win them all, that's fine because we were in it to the death. Being in it until the very end suggests that fortunes could at some point tip in our favor and lead to a victory. We have yet to have that kind of season under Bo. And it's getting to the point where I'm not sure if it will happen.

So here is where I'm drawing the line, and maybe you'll agree with me too:

What I want to see next season is what I pointed out above. If we have one slip up game where that doesn't happen, that's fine. Because one is less than two or three. That can be seen as improvement and a step forward. I truly think we are capable of that next season. If it doesn't happen, then it's time for a change.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

Technically, the two tend to go hand in hand. Win your conference, you're more than likely in the playoffs next year.

Not true. You know they will try to get in two teams from the SEC. Its just the way it is. That means the last two teams will come from ACC, Big 12, Pac 12 and B1G. And we all know the B1G has a bad national reputation, so it prob wont be the B1G champion making the bracket.

 

[BigRedBuster]

I have stayed out of this conversation since. However, this thought came to mind when I read the title one more time.

To answer the original question, I would have to say "no". But, that is because winning the National Championship is something that very very few coaches ever do. I don't know of any coach that could come in here and I would answer that question differently. Even if God himself (Saben) came in here, if I had to put money on the line as to if he was going to win an NC, I would say "no". That doesn't mean nobody can win an NC here. It just means any program's chances are so small.

Now, the more interesting question to me is, how many coaches are out there that would increase our chances of winning an NC. I personally would say that I think Bo is probably in the top 10-15 coaches that are coaching right now that would give is a chance to win an NC. Who would be on the list that would give us a better chance to win an NC no matter if we could get him here or not? I'm sure the list would include:

Saben

Meyer

Who else??????

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I have stayed out of this conversation since. However, this thought came to mind when I read the title one more time.

To answer the original question, I would have to say "no". But, that is because winning the National Championship is something that very very few coaches ever do. I don't know of any coach that could come in here and I would answer that question differently. Even if God himself (Saben) came in here, if I had to put money on the line as to if he was going to win an NC, I would say "no". That doesn't mean nobody can win an NC here. It just means any program's chances are so small.

Now, the more interesting question to me is, how many coaches are out there that would increase our chances of winning an NC. I personally would say that I think Bo is probably in the top 10-15 coaches that are coaching right now that would give is a chance to win an NC. Who would be on the list that would give us a better chance to win an NC no matter if we could get him here or not? I'm sure the list would include:

Saben

Meyer

Who else??????

Nobody else if you are only shopping for high-priced brand names.

But in the next few years we will be talking about coaches who are turning programs around, running exciting new offenses and out-coaching their higher paid peers.

We don't know all their names yet, but they will become head coaches at programs who were willing to take a calculated gamble. Some will come without head coaching experience, like Tom Osborne. Others from less prestigious programs, like Bob Devaney.

Act now and they come cheaper and work harder.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

I have stayed out of this conversation since. However, this thought came to mind when I read the title one more time.

To answer the original question, I would have to say "no". But, that is because winning the National Championship is something that very very few coaches ever do. I don't know of any coach that could come in here and I would answer that question differently. Even if God himself (Saben) came in here, if I had to put money on the line as to if he was going to win an NC, I would say "no". That doesn't mean nobody can win an NC here. It just means any program's chances are so small.

Now, the more interesting question to me is, how many coaches are out there that would increase our chances of winning an NC. I personally would say that I think Bo is probably in the top 10-15 coaches that are coaching right now that would give is a chance to win an NC. Who would be on the list that would give us a better chance to win an NC no matter if we could get him here or not? I'm sure the list would include:

Saben

Meyer

Who else??????

You just hit the nail on the head. +1

 

[True2tRA]

This is almost off topic from the direction of this thread, but te poll should be will Pelini ever win a conference championship. We really need to let the whole NC thing die, almost like you need the stars to align a bit of that to happen. Also could be when will we beat a top ten team again

Sorry. You can start a new thread with that poll question if you like.

I don't believe in lowering the standards of Nebraska just because some of you have a crush on Bo Pelini.

A conference Championship is a goal, but it's not the ultimate goal. If I posed the conference championship question, it would then make the conference championship seem as if it is some sort of elusive, difficult to obtain, unachievable standard, when the fact is, not only is it achievable, IMO, Nebraska should compete for them every year. If said Conference Championship was won, then Bo supporters would tell the naysayers, "see, we told you he could win a CC game", as if that validates his entire career here.

The fact is, the last six years have not been as good, or bad as some would say. They have not produced CC's or NC's, and slowly but surely, 9 wins has become a standard here. I will stick to my belief that a good coach with a good staff not only wins CC games at Nebraska, but competes for NC's. The goal is always to win them all.

Sure, but typically only one team can achieve that goal.

So what do you do when you can't reach that goal? Do you just give up and call the season a failure? Baylor came into the season sort of under the radar and finished the regular season 11-1. Is that season a failure? At some point, you have to accept a certain level of success in order to prevent yourself from being absolutely crushed when we can't win them all. For some, that's 9 wins. For others it's 11 wins and conference championships. To some those expectations are way too low, to others those expectations are way too high.

Personally, I just want to see a team not have to fight against a team it shouldn't have to fight against and compete in the games that are against teams who are perceived to be better than them (i.e. ranked higher). If we don't win them all, that's fine because we were in it to the death. Being in it until the very end suggests that fortunes could at some point tip in our favor and lead to a victory. We have yet to have that kind of season under Bo. And it's getting to the point where I'm not sure if it will happen.

So here is where I'm drawing the line, and maybe you'll agree with me too:

What I want to see next season is what I pointed out above. If we have one slip up game where that doesn't happen, that's fine. Because one is less than two or three. That can be seen as improvement and a step forward. I truly think we are capable of that next season. If it doesn't happen, then it's time for a change.

We agree. I expect Bo to stop being his own worst enemy, and I expect his team to do the same.

 

[skersfan]

Of course he did, no one would ever come here but Bo. No one will ever come here, no one is qualified to lead theHuskers but Bo. No one could ever improve on our great record, no one could ever win more than ten games. Yea for sure Bo is number 3 in the coaching world.

My guess is you could possibly add:

Briles

Shaw

Sweeney

Richt

Malzahn

Belima

Fitzgerald

Obrien

Kill a stretch

Gundy

Snyder

Cutcliff

Petrino

Fischer

Leach

Anderson

OLeary

Not saying I want a single one of them, but Bo is not the only coach, nor is he the third best coach in the country by any count, imagination or joke.

NIU coach

Stoops, again a stretch

Not even going into the lower teams

 

[Hunter94]

I have stayed out of this conversation since. However, this thought came to mind when I read the title one more time.

To answer the original question, I would have to say "no". But, that is because winning the National Championship is something that very very few coaches ever do. I don't know of any coach that could come in here and I would answer that question differently. Even if God himself (Saben) came in here, if I had to put money on the line as to if he was going to win an NC, I would say "no". That doesn't mean nobody can win an NC here. It just means any program's chances are so small.

Now, the more interesting question to me is, how many coaches are out there that would increase our chances of winning an NC. I personally would say that I think Bo is probably in the top 10-15 coaches that are coaching right now that would give is a chance to win an NC. Who would be on the list that would give us a better chance to win an NC no matter if we could get him here or not? I'm sure the list would include:

Saben

Meyer

Who else??????

You just hit the nail on the head. +1

disagree...Bo will never win a NC....anywhere....he's just not that guy.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

I have stayed out of this conversation since. However, this thought came to mind when I read the title one more time.

To answer the original question, I would have to say "no". But, that is because winning the National Championship is something that very very few coaches ever do. I don't know of any coach that could come in here and I would answer that question differently. Even if God himself (Saben) came in here, if I had to put money on the line as to if he was going to win an NC, I would say "no". That doesn't mean nobody can win an NC here. It just means any program's chances are so small.

Now, the more interesting question to me is, how many coaches are out there that would increase our chances of winning an NC. I personally would say that I think Bo is probably in the top 10-15 coaches that are coaching right now that would give is a chance to win an NC. Who would be on the list that would give us a better chance to win an NC no matter if we could get him here or not? I'm sure the list would include:

Saben

Meyer

Who else??????

You just hit the nail on the head. +1

disagree...Bo will never win a NC....anywhere....he's just not that guy.

I voted no because like BRB said, the chances of ANY coach, including, but not limited to, Bo Pelini winning a NC at any school in the nation, including, but not limited to Nebraska, are low. I would prob vote no for anyone but Nick Saban, and even then it'd prob only be a maybe.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

Of course he did, no one would ever come here but Bo. No one will ever come here, no one is qualified to lead theHuskers but Bo. No one could ever improve on our great record, no one could ever win more than ten games. Yea for sure Bo is number 3 in the coaching world.

My guess is you could possibly add:

Briles

Shaw

Sweeney

Richt

Malzahn

Belima

Fitzgerald

Obrien

Kill a stretch

Gundy

Snyder

Cutcliff

Petrino

Fischer

Leach

Anderson

OLeary

Not saying I want a single one of them, but Bo is not the only coach, nor is he the third best coach in the country by any count, imagination or joke.

NIU coach

Stoops, again a stretch

Not even going into the lower teams

Is this directed towards me?

 

[skersfan]

MNC are very hard to get, I never expect them. Bo is a division one coach, he actually has as good of a chance as any other one. Saben maybe a little better, but overall it is a crap shoot. A lot of luck goes into every single one it seems. Even Saben has had to have a lot of luck to win the ones he has won.

 

[BigRedBuster]

Of course he did, no one would ever come here but Bo. No one will ever come here, no one is qualified to lead theHuskers but Bo. No one could ever improve on our great record, no one could ever win more than ten games. Yea for sure Bo is number 3 in the coaching world.

My guess is you could possibly add:

Briles

Shaw

Sweeney

Richt

Malzahn

Belima

Fitzgerald

Obrien

Kill a stretch

Gundy

Snyder

Cutcliff

Petrino

Fischer

Leach

Anderson

OLeary

Not saying I want a single one of them, but Bo is not the only coach, nor is he the third best coach in the country by any count, imagination or joke.

NIU coach

Stoops, again a stretch

Not even going into the lower teams

If this is at me, I never said Bo is the only coach.

 

[skersfan]

I guess I took it wrong, you listed two possible, Po said spot on.

I feel there are many that could come here and do a better job than Bo, and mostly because of his lack of experience and his surrounding young coaches. I am to the point though, that we have invested so much in this staff, and the time should be for them to show their experience. I hope this is the year it all comes together for them.I am not screaming for changes in the OC or DC. None of the assistants. Just want them to do the job they should be well on their way to learning.

Bo's actions at the Iowa game were bad in my mind, but our AD did nothing to make it better. I can see how his frustration could creep out. I really blame Eichorst more for this melt down. But still Bo needs to improve on his sideline actions. I agree he is not much worse than others, but he is the one always in the spot light. He needs to realize it and do better.

 

[beanman]

I'm late to the party. My only comment would be that while I understand that some of you may feel that Pelini would win a national championship, I honestly don't get how some of you think it'll happen in the next 3 years.

At this point I don't think we'll win a national title in my lifetime again, unless we hire someone like Saban. I'm okay with that, but it'd be nice to at least win a conference title once every 5-7 years. I'm not sure I see that happening with Bo, but we'll see.

 

[strigori]

Technically, the two tend to go hand in hand. Win your conference, you're more than likely in the playoffs next year.

Not true. You know they will try to get in two teams from the SEC. Its just the way it is. That means the last two teams will come from ACC, Big 12, Pac 12 and B1G. And we all know the B1G has a bad national reputation, so it prob wont be the B1G champion making the bracket.

I'm pretty sure there has been talk with the selection committee that winning your conference will be a factor. If it was this year, Auburn, FSU and MSU get bids for sure.