Pickering...

GSG said:
Who the hell is Gabe Heins?
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Walk on from Kearney. Not sure if it's UNK or a high school in Kearney though, but he's a walk-on. 

knapplc said:
Sure. And that third kicker is true Freshman walk-on Gabe Heins from Kearney. And if he's out there against NIU and gets hurt... shouldn't we have a guy on the squad who could possibly kick for us?
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This is a perfect opportunity for Frost to point to the student section for volunteers, wait 20-30 minutes for the student to make it down to the field from the student section, and kick the winning field goal for the team. 

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Also a pic of the club soccer player that's coming over to kick for us this weekend:

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knapplc said:
Sure. And that third kicker is true Freshman walk-on Gabe Heins from Kearney. And if he's out there against NIU and gets hurt... shouldn't we have a guy on the squad who could possibly kick for us?
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Wyohusker56 says that coaches don't even plan for a backup kicker because the odds of them getting hurt are so infinitesimally small that literally no coach would even think about planning for a back up.  Why would we need another?

 
FrankWheeler said:
Wyohusker56 says that coaches don't even plan for a backup kicker because the odds of them getting hurt are so infinitesimally small that literally no coach would even think about planning for a back up.  Why would we need another?
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Are you asking me to argue someone else's point? Wouldn't it be better to address that with them?

 
FrankWheeler said:
Somebody could also spin this as desperation.  They had the entire Spring, Summer, and Fall camp with these kickers and they are just now realizing they are screwed if the #1 guy goes down?
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Jorgenson the 2nd stringer was injured too...people are forgetting it wasn't just the 1st string kicker. 

Usually is desperation mode when your 1st and 2nd string kickers go down with injuries. How rare is that to happen? I don't know how you spin this negatively whatsoever

 
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FrankWheeler said:
The reply seemed to fit with the flow of the conversation and your assertion that a third kicker would be wasting a roster spot.
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My assertion is that quality third kickers are a luxury, not the norm. I doubt many teams have more than two kickers on scholarship. We appear to be in the neighborhood of roster management that most teams have.

We're down to our third kicker. It's highly unusual. Probably we'll give him a shot this weekend, but last weekend with the travel roster being smaller, he didn't make the trip.

But a guy could easily roll into Heins' ankle, thus we need to go searching for another body.

 
knapplc said:
My assertion is that quality third kickers are a luxury, not the norm. I doubt many teams have more than two kickers on scholarship. We appear to be in the neighborhood of roster management that most teams have.

We're down to our third kicker. It's highly unusual. Probably we'll give him a shot this weekend, but last weekend with the travel roster being smaller, he didn't make the trip.

But a guy could easily roll into Heins' ankle, thus we need to go searching for another body.
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Yes agreed. It'd be interesting to see how many teams in the last 10 years had their first 2 kickers go down with injury at the same time. Maybe could count on 1 or 2 hands

 
FrankWheeler said:
Wyohusker56 says that coaches don't even plan for a backup kicker because the odds of them getting hurt are so infinitesimally small that literally no coach would even think about planning for a back up.  Why would we need another?
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Yup, I did say "because the odds of them getting hurt are so infinitesimally small that literally no coach would even think about planning for a back up."

WyoHusker56 said:
How often does the number 1 kicker go down to an injury? I can't hardly think of one time, so most teams have no back up plan. However, the coaches did have a back up plan in Dylan Jorgensen and he didn't practice today either. So, you can spin it as desperation, but literally every other team in the country would be in the same boat if their number 1 guy went down.
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That is interesting...I am trying to think if we practice two kickers (or more) and I think what we do/have done is at the start of the season we sort of find two guys that can kick and punt...we practice them both the first week...then after that we have our starters and the backups really don't practice it...

But in college, special teams is done different, (usually), the specialists come out at the start of practice, kick, punt a few times, then usually go in and lift (watch TV and eat snacks) and come back out at the end during specials.

Since they don't have a FT special teams coach, I suppose it makes sense that other guys were not practicing.

 
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