Huskers Need a New Coach

[indianahusker]

Saw this on another board...FWIW, I believe he's talking about CU and KSU...

Why are we expected to be patient???? There are a whole slew of 2nd year coaches out there getting it done, and Calllllllllllllllly and crew haven't even given us a hint of being back on top. Why is the collection of azzclowns continually given this free pass??

 

[junior4949]

GAME ON

I can't believe your truly a fan of the Big Red. Hah we win big against a team who always plays up to us our defense did a fine job even scored a TD and your calling for a firing squad.

We are not going to be dominant in every game anymore. Teams who were not dominant this week include USC, OU,Texas,Wisconsin, Penn St, Cal, Oregon, Florida etc etc is fact most of these teams lost. Several lost at home.

Each team gave up more points than we did. Compare Iowa St and Cu. Compare Iowa St and K St.

I feel to get better we need to stick together not become the issue. If it does become more than you can handle I still need tickets. I mean honestly why do you need them? The games seem to be tearing you up inside. What possible enjoyment can you be getting watching this team?

I remember standing and watching the 1990 Fiesta bowl vs Flo. St.. We lost and lost big. I enjoyed just being there rooting for my team while sitting amidst of the FSU fans. They thought I was nuts and I probably am but my son and I told them all we will be back.

I don't remember anyone wanting Dr. Tom fired or his staff. I feel the "New" fans, after 1994 arespoiled. Thats when I personally saw Husker fans come out of the woodwork. I remind you I'm not from or in Nebraska but my parents were. I watched the Huskers win it all in 70 and 71 and waited and suffered 23 years for another. In that time I was able to grow up with Dr. Tom. He gained more respect by persuvering and always trying to get better while maintaing his loyalty to his players and his staff.

From my observance of Coach Callahan he runs a tight ship. There is "more than winning" on his mind. This was the Husker Way and should be still. I'll be calling for Callahan's firing when he becomes shady like some other squads i know. When winning is the only thing that matters. Ex. Miami, OU and at times CU. I'll jump on the "fire bandwagon" when Coz and his crew run the Husker athletes down in the media or give excuses why they lost without accepting any blame.

Until then I'll be patient, always watchful and always dam proud.

look, everyone is passionate about the Huskers, but in so many ways, as we look around and see the sucess and big wins lesser talented teams are producing, we gravitate back to the lack of good coaching on this team.

this isn't going to go away with the addition of better athletes.

sure cally displays good character in his kids, a lot of coaches do that, but between him and especially coz, they both have simply looked out coached too many times over the last couple years.

As did Dr. Tom at times. Especially early on against Misouri. I still think he made a mistake in 83 against Miami. Not tha he went for 2 but that he didn't go for 2 the TD before. If he had and missed he would of had to go for 2 for the tie at the end if he had made the first then the kick at the end would of been all he needed.

Hah but I forgave him.

All I ask is give this group a chance. 4 years is nothing. Callahan is a good coach IMO but he will get better over time. Who was Osbornes Defense Coordinator? Did he always have the best defense? Did he eventually?

First of all, when did ISU start playing up to us? They've beat us like what 4 times in 4 decades? ISU has had a couple of decent teams in the past 6 or 7 years. However, I think it's pretty naive to believe they're going to have much success in the Big 12 this year. IMO, they will finish either dead last or second to last in the Big 12. They are 1-4 against the likes of Northern Iowa, Kent State, etc. They plain and simply are not a good football team. Ball State easily beats ISU this year. They're more comparable to Nevada, IMO. Of the teams you mentioned not dominating, Cal played Oregon. They were ranked like #6 and #11, so who would really think either team would dominate the other? Florida lost to a team ranked preseason pretty high that really is a good football team other than some offensive letdowns this year. Penn State has been overranked all year. They were exposed a week ago against Michigan. There is simply no excuse for what happened to OU.

No one wanted TO fired as Head Coach? Did you sleep through the 70's? There might not have been message boards on the internet (because there wasn't the Internet, Al Gore hadn't invented it yet) , but there was just as much disgust with him. He nearly took the CU job because of the pressure at NU. There were a lot of people calling for TO's head.

I had the same attitude about having patience and giving time once upon a time also, but that was ruined 4 years ago. IMO, BC has 6 years to get it done. If he doesn't get it done in that time period, he should be canned just like the last head coach. When I say get it done, I think he needs to win the Big 12 Championship to accomplish this. Pud promised we would not surrender the Big 12 to OU and Texass. We must beat these teams and win the Big 12 in order to make Pud's promise come true. If it is not realized, get someone in here that can!

 

[junior4949]

Saw this on another board...FWIW, I believe he's talking about CU and KSU...

Why are we expected to be patient???? There are a whole slew of 2nd year coaches out there getting it done, and Calllllllllllllllly and crew haven't even given us a hint of being back on top. Why is the collection of azzclowns continually given this free pass??

Didn't KState win just 4 games the year before Prince took over as HC? I don't care what anyone says about Solich's recruiting and talent. There is no way you can say the talent was worse at NU when BC took over than it was at CU when Hawkins took over. No way because anyone with any talent at all left, so don't even try to debate this fact. Good coaching does outshine talent. We've seen many many cases of this the past 5 years. BC has a free pass from me until after year 6. If he hasn't won the Big 12 by that time, can him!

 

[indianahusker]

Saw this on another board...FWIW, I believe he's talking about CU and KSU...

Why are we expected to be patient???? There are a whole slew of 2nd year coaches out there getting it done, and Calllllllllllllllly and crew haven't even given us a hint of being back on top. Why is the collection of azzclowns continually given this free pass??

Didn't KState win just 4 games the year before Prince took over as HC? I don't care what anyone says about Solich's recruiting and talent. There is no way you can say the talent was worse at NU when BC took over than it was at CU when Hawkins took over. No way because anyone with any talent at all left, so don't even try to debate this fact. Good coaching does outshine talent. We've seen many many cases of this the past 5 years. BC has a free pass from me until after year 6. If he hasn't won the Big 12 by that time, can him!

edited...I believe we agree here...

 

[skersfan]

I will say this again.

We have better talent than Nebraska is used to getting in the last 8 years. That is overall.

Our recruiting has been outstanding compared to what we had done prior.

Do we have top ten talent. Not a chance. We have talent to be right where we are. We do not have quality depth talent.

I still say and stand by MHO that not one player on this squad would start at a top 10 program. Most would not make the squad at SC, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida and a few others.

This claiming we have better talent than any program in the North is questionable at least. We may have, but if we do it is not by much. Most of the talking heads/recruiting gurus feel Missouri has the most talent. I heard it was a pretty much a toss up after that, but us second barely.

We tend to read our own press clippings and buy in hook line and sinker. We can not for some reason understand that other teams have talent and want to get better to.

We are not the Nebraska of old. But college footall is not college football of old either.

We are going to struggle, I think from now on out. I do not see the return of playing for NC's every year. I see us being a good team with the chance occasionally to compete for the BCS game.

Coaching may be the key. Prince and Hawkins had nothing to lose. Neither really fit the mold that Nebraska would accept as their coach.

But as Hunter said and I have said, I give the man at least 5 years. If he has not gotten done by then, or clear indication it is around the corner, he won't.

I still have faith in BC. Coz is a question. But every kid seems to love him and says he is doing everything right and they are making the mistakes. Normally when there is problem the kids would not endorse as heavily as they seem to be. But I am not in the locker room, so I just have to go by what their leaders say.

My biggest concern on this team is the conditioning and strength. Our lines seems to get man handled on a regular basis, I don't know if that is athletic talent or manpower. You coaches should know.

 

[DCHusker]

I still say and stand by MHO that not one player on this squad would start at a top 10 program. Most would not make the squad at SC, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida and a few others.

I think this is a bit of an overstatement. Bowman could start on any of those teams except LSU. Purify could probably start at any of those teams. I would take Keller over Matt Flynn/Ryan Perriloux and also over Sam Bradford. I really think Matt Slauson is good enough to start on a lot of those teams too. And Adi Kunalic for sure.

Agree that overall those teams greatly overshadow us in talent though.

 

[DJR313]

After reading threads like this ad nauseum, I think the Huskers need some new fans. In this state of college football, avoiding the upset is huge and it is not a bad thing to be able to win a dog fight. Nebraska has already won 2 this year. If they finish with 2-3 losses and all the games are close, that's still pretty darn good. Teams aren't steamrolling through their schedules any more. OU and Florida were, then look what happened. This team has some heart and that will usually count for something.

 

[junior4949]

Didn't Southern Florida or whoever beat West Virginia move to #8? No way in HELL they have more talent than NU. If you believe they do, then you do have your head in the sand. I would bet that a lot of those top teams you mentioned would gladly have Keller on their team especially OU and Texass. USC wanted Lucky, so I don't buy that either. Suh was like in the top 50 recruits in his recruiting class. Yeah, I'm sure nobody wants him! Give me a break, we have talent and we have a lot more talent than CU, KU, KState, ISU. Mizzou hasn't even had a top 25 recruiting class the last 4 years have they?

 

[indianahusker]

After 2 Top-10 classes in 4 years, why does NU not have the talent?

Oh, and btw...some former players disagree that NU doesn't have the talent...

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"I will tell you if I was at Nebraska today, I'd be second or third string," Ramaekers said. "That's how talented we are. (Bill) Callahan and Cosgrove have done a great job getting some huge, talented guys. I don't even know if I'd make it.

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http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200...;u_sid=10143810

 

[DJR313]

After 2 Top-10 classes in 4 years, why does NU not have the talent?

Oh, and btw...some former players disagree that NU doesn't have the talent...

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"I will tell you if I was at Nebraska today, I'd be second or third string," Ramaekers said. "That's how talented we are. (Bill) Callahan and Cosgrove have done a great job getting some huge, talented guys. I don't even know if I'd make it.

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http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=1200...;u_sid=10143810

Yeah, I recalled reading that as well. I think Missouri has similar talent. KU, CU, KSU have decent talent and ISU is lagging behind.

 

[Hunter94]

everyone's talent is better today. coaching is more important than it ever was.

 

[indianahusker]

everyone's talent is better today. coaching is more important than it ever was.

Hunter, you couldn't be more right...

I still believe in Cally.

But part of my perspective about Coz comes from this weekend. The players finally played with heart, tackled well, etc....and still looked suspect. Is it talent or scheme? I believe it is both. Seriously, does NU need 6 QB's on scholarship and 6 RB's on scholarship? That's why NU is struggling on Defense...not enough depth on the D side of the ball, because we have too many players on scholarship who will never play on offense.

Oh, yeah...and Coz sucks.

 

[SOCALHUSKER]

After reading threads like this ad nauseum, I think the Huskers need some new fans. In this state of college football, avoiding the upset is huge and it is not a bad thing to be able to win a dog fight. Nebraska has already won 2 this year. If they finish with 2-3 losses and all the games are close, that's still pretty darn good. Teams aren't steamrolling through their schedules any more. OU and Florida were, then look what happened. This team has some heart and that will usually count for something.

I Couldn't agree more. Sure, I love it when Nebraska steamrolls to victory but college football is a much different animal than it was 10 years ago. With NCAA regulations and media coverage the playing field is leveling out quite a bit. That was evident this weekend with all the top 10 teams that lost. Nebraska has many talented players but so does every other school. Would the same people who don't think NU has any talent say that Auburn has more talent than Florida, Colorado has more talent than Oklahoma, or K-State has more talent than Texas? I don't f*@king think so!!

Sure, we've given up some massive chunks yardage this season which I find quite irritating and hope/pray a defensive solution is somewhere in the works. The bottom line is, we are 4-1 and can still win the Big 12 and go to a BCS game. Hell, we could even possibly go to the national championship game with the way things are going. Who's to say that there's any undefeated teams at the end of the year. That's not very realistic but it's a possibility. We just need to support our team for who they are, the team will feed off the fans, and the wins will come. College football is slowly evolving into an NFL type atmosphere where every week's a battle in which any team can pull off a victory. I just hope every week it's the Huskers. GBR!!!!!!

 

[NMHUSKER]

GAME ON

I can't believe your truly a fan of the Big Red. Hah we win big against a team who always plays up to us our defense did a fine job even scored a TD and your calling for a firing squad.

We are not going to be dominant in every game anymore. Teams who were not dominant this week include USC, OU,Texas,Wisconsin, Penn St, Cal, Oregon, Florida etc etc is fact most of these teams lost. Several lost at home.

Each team gave up more points than we did. Compare Iowa St and Cu. Compare Iowa St and K St.

I feel to get better we need to stick together not become the issue. If it does become more than you can handle I still need tickets. I mean honestly why do you need them? The games seem to be tearing you up inside. What possible enjoyment can you be getting watching this team?

I remember standing and watching the 1990 Fiesta bowl vs Flo. St.. We lost and lost big. I enjoyed just being there rooting for my team while sitting amidst of the FSU fans. They thought I was nuts and I probably am but my son and I told them all we will be back.

I don't remember anyone wanting Dr. Tom fired or his staff. I feel the "New" fans, after 1994 arespoiled. Thats when I personally saw Husker fans come out of the woodwork. I remind you I'm not from or in Nebraska but my parents were. I watched the Huskers win it all in 70 and 71 and waited and suffered 23 years for another. In that time I was able to grow up with Dr. Tom. He gained more respect by persuvering and always trying to get better while maintaing his loyalty to his players and his staff.

From my observance of Coach Callahan he runs a tight ship. There is "more than winning" on his mind. This was the Husker Way and should be still. I'll be calling for Callahan's firing when he becomes shady like some other squads i know. When winning is the only thing that matters. Ex. Miami, OU and at times CU. I'll jump on the "fire bandwagon" when Coz and his crew run the Husker athletes down in the media or give excuses why they lost without accepting any blame.

Until then I'll be patient, always watchful and always dam proud.

look, everyone is passionate about the Huskers, but in so many ways, as we look around and see the sucess and big wins lesser talented teams are producing, we gravitate back to the lack of good coaching on this team.

this isn't going to go away with the addition of better athletes.

sure cally displays good character in his kids, a lot of coaches do that, but between him and especially coz, they both have simply looked out coached too many times over the last couple years.

As did Dr. Tom at times. Especially early on against Misouri. I still think he made a mistake in 83 against Miami. Not tha he went for 2 but that he didn't go for 2 the TD before. If he had and missed he would of had to go for 2 for the tie at the end if he had made the first then the kick at the end would of been all he needed.

Hah but I forgave him.

All I ask is give this group a chance. 4 years is nothing. Callahan is a good coach IMO but he will get better over time. Who was Osbornes Defense Coordinator? Did he always have the best defense? Did he eventually?

First of all, when did ISU start playing up to us? They've beat us like what 4 times in 4 decades? ISU has had a couple of decent teams in the past 6 or 7 years. However, I think it's pretty naive to believe they're going to have much success in the Big 12 this year. IMO, they will finish either dead last or second to last in the Big 12. They are 1-4 against the likes of Northern Iowa, Kent State, etc. They plain and simply are not a good football team. Ball State easily beats ISU this year. They're more comparable to Nevada, IMO. Of the teams you mentioned not dominating, Cal played Oregon. They were ranked like #6 and #11, so who would really think either team would dominate the other? Florida lost to a team ranked preseason pretty high that really is a good football team other than some offensive letdowns this year. Penn State has been overranked all year. They were exposed a week ago against Michigan. There is simply no excuse for what happened to OU.

No one wanted TO fired as Head Coach? Did you sleep through the 70's? There might not have been message boards on the internet (because there wasn't the Internet, Al Gore hadn't invented it yet) , but there was just as much disgust with him. He nearly took the CU job because of the pressure at NU. There were a lot of people calling for TO's head.

I had the same attitude about having patience and giving time once upon a time also, but that was ruined 4 years ago. IMO, BC has 6 years to get it done. If he doesn't get it done in that time period, he should be canned just like the last head coach. When I say get it done, I think he needs to win the Big 12 Championship to accomplish this. Pud promised we would not surrender the Big 12 to OU and Texass. We must beat these teams and win the Big 12 in order to make Pud's promise come true. If it is not realized, get someone in here that can!

I never said Iowa St is a good team. I said they play up to us meaning we get there best game ala Cu vs OU,K St vs Texas. I don't think its our most emotional game. Facts are NO team can be up every game just ask Ou and Texas who I believe was looking forward to this weeks game.

I think most teams play up to us. CU has forever even bought rings for thier win against us. USC made sure they had an extra week to prepare for us just like Misouri is this week.

Beating us still means somethng. At least to all our opponents. Beating us puts other programs on the map.

Makes other Coaches the up and comers. Mack Brown was only highly thought of by some until he suprised us and gambled on the 4th down on his side of the field. I would add McCartney, Shelemberger, and Mr. Stoops to that list.

If a Ball State beats us that IS there season. Same with Iowa St. They could both go 1-11 and they would remember they beat Nebraska. Just like Cu will about beating OU this season.

As for Oregon and Cal ok your argument is they were both highly ranked and then said Penn St was over ranked early. Michigan may have been over ranked but what if they win out? Beat Ohio St. etc and win there Bowl. Could it happen?

And as for me sleeping through the 70's if you had read any of my other posts or even the one you responded to you would notice I mentioned I first became a fan in 1970, seen our first Championship our second as well and yes heard blowhards like yourself want to run Osborne off because he couldn't beat OU then the big games. I do not however remember people saying he should of be run off in 1990. The reason I think of this is that fair weather fans like yourself had already left to enjoy the flavor of the month while myself and others remained and saw a decent man reach the pinnacle of college football success.

I for one have been a fan long enough to see 5 championships, the many fricken heartaches along the way made it just that more sweeter. I'm mature enough to understand one season or one game does not make a Coach. Is Bowden that much worse, is Paterno, is Stoops is Brown?

Patience is only one thing you need to remain a fan of Nebraska. Class is another and if you can't get that well like I said I need tickets and Cu and KST always needs more blowhards.

Have a nice day.

 

[indianahusker]

Beating us still means somethng. At least to all our opponents. Beating us puts other programs on the map.

That's why it wouldn't have been the end of the world to lose to Balls Tate. Which is bigger for which program? NU losing to BSU or BSU beating NU?

Beating NU would have been a win to build a program on.