Trump's Post Election Fallout: Legal & Obstruction actions

Archy1221 said:
No one needs to do anything because it’s good for Trump.  Or bad for that matter.   Just acknowledging how many anti-trump legal minds are talking about the lawfare in NY is a good thing for someone to come to grips with
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I see Trump voters haven't moved on from the "denial" stage of grieving for voting for a career conartist that went from raping women to raping the Republican Party.

It's okay to recognize him as a criminal - he is one. It's not corruption, it's not the state of New York going rogue against him, it's because Trump is a felon. Just accept it. Move on. And while you hopefully move on, consider the politics that caused you to twice vote for this person.  Step away from politics until you understand how this person took over Conservative politics so you can reject them and go back to supporting Republicans that stand for something. 

 
Dr. Strangelove said:
I see Trump voters haven't moved on from the "denial" stage of grieving for voting for a career conartist that went from raping women to raping the Republican Party.
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Why would anyone “grieve” for voting for any politician??  Weird  :(
 

Dr. Strangelove said:
It's okay to recognize him as a criminal - he is one. It's not corruption, it's not the state of New York going rogue against him, it's because Trump is a felon. Just accept it. Move on
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He very well may be a criminal that hasn’t been convicted of the crimes committed yet.  Heck, your guy certainly fits that bill in showering with his daughter to the point she can’t stand it and writes in her journal about it, has the same documents issue as Don the Con…My best guess is 1/4 to 1/2 of all national politicians have committed criminal offenses if one wants to look hard enough.   My questions to you are in regards to what he has gone to court over…..

1) if Trump lives long enough to see it through, do you believe Trump’s appeal in the Braag case will be denied?  Are you ok with a certain misdemeanor offense being charged as a felony for the first time ever in the state of NY and the Judge being a political opponents donor who’s daughter makes millions for the political cause?   
2) Are you ok with James solely targeting the Trump org and not the other businesses in NY State that have the same business practice as Trump Org (as confirmed by those that run said businesses).  To where the Bank did their due diligence, on property valuations, the State did its due diligence on property valuations, the bank accepted the applications for loans, got paid back, and wanted to do more business with Trump org.  Yet Trump Org seems to be the one prosecuted for those offenses and not the other thousands of businesses in State of NY engaging in the same business practice?  
 

3). Are you ok with a sexual offense charge from 28 years ago being brought because the defendant worked with a LP member who in turn worked with NY politicians to change State law for only 1 year to allow people to being civil suits against someone for those types of offenses?   An offense that where the only evidence was she made the claim???  No eyewitness, no DNA, no attempted complaints 28,2726,25,24,23,22,21,20, etc….years ago.   No attempts to even try and extort money from it years ago.   Yet once Trump becomes political, NOW it became a thing??   
 

I would ask you to do two things….1) substitute Trumps name for any Democrat you like with the same circumstances and ask yourself if you still believe in the charges.    If the answer if yes, then you can’t in good conscience vote for Biden because he also has a sexual assault claim against him.   He has just had the benefit of state law not being changed.   
2). If those charges were charges in a red state/red district with 80/20 R/D profile….would Trump have been convicted?    If the Judge hadn’t even been a donor to Trump but the Judges daughter made millions from whatever major anti-Joe pack is out there and Trump were found not guilty with Judge rulings that will likely get reversed on appeal, as will happen soon…. you would be good with it?  

 
Archy1221 said:
Why would anyone “grieve” for voting for any politician??  Weird  :(
 

He very well may be a criminal that hasn’t been convicted of the crimes committed yet.  Heck, your guy certainly fits that bill in showering with his daughter to the point she can’t stand it and writes in her journal about it, has the same documents issue as Don the Con…My best guess is 1/4 to 1/2 of all national politicians have committed criminal offenses if one wants to look hard enough.   My questions to you are in regards to what he has gone to court over…..

1) if Trump lives long enough to see it through, do you believe Trump’s appeal in the Braag case will be denied?  Are you ok with a certain misdemeanor offense being charged as a felony for the first time ever in the state of NY and the Judge being a political opponents donor who’s daughter makes millions for the political cause?   
2) Are you ok with James solely targeting the Trump org and not the other businesses in NY State that have the same business practice as Trump Org (as confirmed by those that run said businesses).  To where the Bank did their due diligence, on property valuations, the State did its due diligence on property valuations, the bank accepted the applications for loans, got paid back, and wanted to do more business with Trump org.  Yet Trump Org seems to be the one prosecuted for those offenses and not the other thousands of businesses in State of NY engaging in the same business practice?  
 

3). Are you ok with a sexual offense charge from 28 years ago being brought because the defendant worked with a LP member who in turn worked with NY politicians to change State law for only 1 year to allow people to being civil suits against someone for those types of offenses?   An offense that where the only evidence was she made the claim???  No eyewitness, no DNA, no attempted complaints 28,2726,25,24,23,22,21,20, etc….years ago.   No attempts to even try and extort money from it years ago.   Yet once Trump becomes political, NOW it became a thing??   
 

I would ask you to do two things….1) substitute Trumps name for any Democrat you like with the same circumstances and ask yourself if you still believe in the charges.    If the answer if yes, then you can’t in good conscience vote for Biden because he also has a sexual assault claim against him.   He has just had the benefit of state law not being changed.   
2). If those charges were charges in a red state/red district with 80/20 R/D profile….would Trump have been convicted?    If the Judge hadn’t even been a donor to Trump but the Judges daughter made millions from whatever major anti-Joe pack is out there and Trump were found not guilty with Judge rulings that will likely get reversed on appeal, as will happen soon…. you would be good with it?  
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So many words to say you're upset a lifelong criminal and creep is finally facing accountability.

 
Danny Bateman said:
So many words to say you're upset a lifelong criminal and creep is finally facing accountability.
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The words said nothing of the sort.    I do find it telling that this is the fifth or sixth time now lately that you don’t respond to substance and either have issues with the person who had a thought (not the thought itself) or try and change around what was said vs responding to what was actually said.
 

 If you have any thoughts on the questions posed, please feel free to discuss.    :snacks:

 
Danny Bateman said:
So many words to say you're upset a lifelong criminal and creep is finally facing accountability.
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Exactly. Trump was a dirtbag when Archy voted for him in 2016, he was a dirtbag in 2020 when voted for him again. This wasn't a surprise.

It's okay to admit that they got scammed. Instead voters like Archy are squirming in uncomfortable reality while everybody says "I told you so". Maybe they should try some self reflection. Stop engaging in politics. Stop voting.

He's a f#&%ing felon now and they voted for him. They need to come to terms with it. 

 
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Dr. Strangelove said:
Exactly. Trump was a dirtbag when Archy voted for him in 2016, he was a dirtbag in 2020 when voted for him again. This wasn't a surprise.

It's okay to admit that they got scammed. Instead voters like Archy are squirming in uncomfortable reality while everybody says "I told you so". Maybe they should try some self reflection. Stop engaging in politics. Stop voting.

He's a f#&%ing felon now and they voted for him. They need to come to terms with it. 
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Really not squirming or uncomfortable.  It’s certainly telling again however that you avoided a few simple questions asked if you?   Maybe they make you “uncomfortable?” 

 
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Archy1221 said:
Really not squirming or uncomfortable.  It’s certainly telling again however that you avoided a few simple questions asked if you?   Maybe they make you “uncomfortable?” 
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You really should feel this way considering he's a rapist, career con artist who tried to undermine the world's greatest Democracy. The fact that you don't see the damage tells me a lot. You really should step aside and stop engaging in politics because what you vote for is dangerous.

And honestly I didn't read your post, it's the ramblings of somebody trying to come to terms that they've voted for a felon, adjudicated Rapist, insurrectionist who tried to overthrow a Democratically elected government who's also dangerously stupid - after being told you were being scammed back in 2015. You're grasping at anything that maybe, kinda sorta will let you off the hook for voting for that. But validation in your beliefs isn't coming for you. You did, in fact, knowingly vote for a career con-artist, adjudicated Rapist, and guy who orchestrated a scheme to undermine Democracy. You have to deal with that on your own terms. Good luck.

 
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