** 2024 Opponent Preview : Colorado (Game 2) **

[RedDenver]

The question is if he's a generational player because he's the only one that could do what he's doing, or if he's just the only one that is. I can think of at least a handful of players over the last 5 years that imo could be that kind of guy playing both ways but didn't because their coaches very clearly don't see it as a smart move.

There's a gigantic difference between claiming someone could have done something and someone else actually doing that thing.

Travis Hunter is the only player actually playing 2 ways and doing it at an extremely high level. I don't think it's been done in over half a century. Pretty fair to call him a generational player.

 

[Undone]

Fairly bad tackling on this one. But obviously he's amazing.

So much of Colorado's offense is just "f*** it, Hunter's down there somewhere" and lob it downfield.

 

[Enhance]

If you can't name anyone who has done something similar in the last 20+ years, it's generational by definition. Although not by literal definition, which is  characteristics shared by members of the same generation. 

Generational is most often used for talent at a specific position, and I'd agree he's not that special at either WR or CB. But as a player, I don't know what else you'd call it - wouldn't hurt for the talking heads to find some synonyms though, because the word does get old. But it's not inaccurate, it's just referring to his ability to play both at the same time rather than his skills at each one individually.

Very well stated and I agree.

I think the issue we're seeing (and that 307 is alluding to) is that "generational" seems to keep getting brought up when referencing TH's offensive capabilities and production, but as you correctly stated, that isn't what really makes him generational - it's his capabilities on both sides of the ball.

I think what would help is if people/pundits used the term more as more of a general reference to him as a player. Right now, it seems to often be used as more of an adjective in direct response to something he does offensively, and that's the part that feels disingenuous.

 

[Gorillahawk]

having him out there for 100 plays a game seems like a sure fire way to get him injured before the end of the season

I believe this is what happened last year. Plus with all the hype means extra attention/more physical play he's going to see. The media isnt doing him or the QB Sanders any favors in that regard imo

 

[Mavric]

I'm quite sure that there are quite a few players who COULD play both ways, but choose to specialize in one role, like the other 99.999% of college and nfl players.  Other than the novelty of his position(s) with the Buffs, wouldn't he be better served to become the best player at one position rather than a very good one that plays both?  

I mean ... he's pretty darn good at both.

This was a TD:

 

[Mavric]

The question is if he's a generational player because he's the only one that could do what he's doing, or if he's just the only one that is. I can think of at least a handful of players over the last 5 years that imo could be that kind of guy playing both ways but didn't because their coaches very clearly don't see it as a smart move.

Discounting what someone is actually doing because it's theoretically possible that there are some other people who could have done it is going a long ways out of your way to try to find some way to discount what is actually happening.

 

[Husker in WI]

having him out there for 100 plays a game seems like a sure fire way to get him injured before the end of the season

I believe this is what happened last year. 

I mean maybe the amount of snaps played a factor, he's super skinny and some of that is probably the high workload. But a Colorado State player put a shoulder into his gut after the play and lacerated his liver. It's not like he just got worn down, or his knees couldn't handle it. Definitely has to be a higher injury risk than the average player, but I don't think the injury he had came down to playing too many snaps.

 

[ZRod]

There hasn’t been a two way player like him since 95-97. 

Who was the last player that played that much both ways let alone made significant impacts on both sides?

Don't really care. It's my opinion. He's a really good player on a s#!tty team. As a Corner he's ok. As a WR he's really good but he doesn't do anything that hasn't been done before. The reason guys don't play that much both was is because they are going to get injured. Hunter has never made it through a full season at Jackson State or Colorado and he probably won't this year either. It's too much wear and tear on the body.

 

[Lorewarn]

Discounting what someone is actually doing because it's theoretically possible that there are some other people who could have done it is going a long ways out of your way to try to find some way to discount what is actually happening.

It's not that far out of the way. You could have two Tom Brady clones on different teams where one throws for 50 TDs and the other only for 20 TD not due to any difference in skill or ability but difference in contextual factors outside of them. 

Regardless, he's a great player that I hope does terrible against us but otherwise does not get ran into the ground by his coaches/workload. Seems like a good kid too.

 

[Mavric]

It's not that far out of the way. You could have two Tom Brady clones on different teams where one throws for 50 TDs and the other only for 20 TD not due to any difference in skill or ability but difference in contextual factors outside of them. 

I mean ... That's not at all what we're talking about. 

But continue on out of your way.

 

[ZRod]

I mean maybe the amount of snaps played a factor, he's super skinny and some of that is probably the high workload. But a Colorado State player put a shoulder into his gut after the play and lacerated his liver. It's not like he just got worn down, or his knees couldn't handle it. Definitely has to be a higher injury risk than the average player, but I don't think the injury he had came down to playing too many snaps.

It happened early in the season and he missed multiple games. If he didn't sit out he more than likely wasn't going to make it through the season anyway.

 

[Slow yer Roll]

While trying to find info on this game last night I learned:

CO scheduled this game 8 years ago @ $700k

( hasn't ndsu won 5 championships in their division since then?)

And

The Hunter kid is a 4.0 student, and likes fishing.

That's impressive. 

Good job young man.

 

[Mavric]

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[BigRedBuster]

No. A good FBS team should have a large win over teams like this, so it is not a good win for Colorado at all. They should have won by 3 TD at least. To eek out a win by 5 yards at the buzzer is embarrassing. The way their team played was embarrassing.  Shedeur and Hunter out athleted SDSU by so much that they snuck away w/ the W. But the rest of FBS won't lack the athleticism to contain those two.

I know NU has been beaten by these types of teams in the past or barely beaten these teams in the past. Those are "bad losses," and "bad wins." Those NU teams are, "bad teams."

CU is a mess. That team is a bad team. That win was not a good win. 

Why is it embarrassing for you how CU played?

 

[DefenderAO]

I think of them as I do weathermen. They’re seldom right and no one seems to care. 

I think of them as I do weathermen. They’re seldom right and no one seems to care. 

I think of them as I do weathermen. They’re seldom right and no one seems to care. 

You can say that again