runningblind
All-American
@SuperBigFan69 can you just admit you secretly have a crush on Iowa because they are very similar to Bo Pelini Nebraka and you can't let it go, so we can move on? You talk about them more than anyone else on this board.
Obligatory "Is Iowa a Rival" Thread
- Thread starter Mavric
- Start date
SuperBigFan69
Head Coach
Maybe the mods can just kick the iowa fans out of here???
Wistrom Disciple
Starter
runningblind
All-American
Wins 8/9/10 games every year, gets blown out/looses to any good team but beats every team they should beat. There are differences on how they get there, but basically the same exact results.
Red Five
Heisman Trophy Winner
Street Novelist
All-American
Why do you guys keep feeding the troll? Just ignore him.
Red Five
Heisman Trophy Winner
Wistrom Disciple
Starter
I think that is quite a generalization and distorted thinking IMO.
Bo played for conference titles in three of his seven years and won at least nine games in each season while switching from a pass-happy conference to a smashmouth style conference in the middle of his tenure. In Iowa, that gets you a contract for 25+ years.
runningblind
All-American
I don't think it is very far off at all, but you and a lot of others on here simply don't want it to be true. Iowa has also played in 3 B1G title games in the last decade, and didn't win any of them, sound familiar? Over that decade Iowa has a winning percentage of .695, Bo had a winning percentage of .712 at Nebraska.
Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
Texas Tech and OK State may have gone air raid, but the Big 12 itself was not pass happy. The best teams in the Big 10 passed just as much as the best teams in other conferences, which is to say quite a bit. I'm not even sure what smashmouth means here. Nebraska's RPO offense stayed pretty much the same in its transition to the Big 10, to pretty much the same results -- beating the second tier but trading Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma for Ohio State, Wisconsin and Michigan --- teams that all ran and passed and played defense.
I guess the question hanging over this thread is whether Nebraska is actually jealous of Iowa's uhm.....consistency?
One thing college football analysts can all agree on is that Iowa football is often painful to watch.
Wistrom Disciple
Starter
I think the premise is misguided and you're looking at the outcomes and generalizing. It would be equivalent to me saying a pickup truck and a moped are the same thing because they get you to the same location in the same amount of time. Whole lot of nuance being ignored to reach the conclusion.
I wasn't suggesting the Big 12 was full Air Raid, but there is a distinct difference between how the Big Ten has played and how the Big 12 played. Big 12 was more dynamic with playmakers and spread out concepts, while the Big Ten was more likely to be run-first, three yards and a cloud of dust style of play. One minor example I noticed early on in our conference transition was that the Big 12 often thrived with defensive ends who could be anywhere from 240-270 lbs. and linebackers that were 220-240 lbs. while our first years in the Big 10 often faced d-ends in the 270-300 lbs. and linebackers in the 240-260 lbs. ranges. Obviously a whole lot of intangibles play a part, but the Big 10 relied on more bulk to stop the run-first offenses they often faced (Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.) while the Big 12 defenses were often built to defend all over the field.
Totally agreed on being jealous for consistency and also that it is incredibly painful to sit through Iowa games.
runningblind
All-American
All I was ever talking about was the outcomes, and I did mention there were different paths to get there. You are solely focused on the differences, instead of the outcomes, but what truly matters? The wins and losses, aka the outcomes. That was my whole point in the two programs being the same during those time periods.
Wistrom Disciple
Starter
While I understand why you are grouping the two to reach your conclusion, the support you are using to justify it is incorrect. For example, the stats you use do not compare an equal period. Pelini was 66-28 (or 9/10 wins each year and 4 losses) during his seven years at Nebraska. During the same seven year period, Iowa was 54-36. For the four years he coached in the Big Ten, Pelini was 37-16 (~70%) while Iowa was 26-25 (~50%).
I think what you've been intending to say, which I agree with, is that Iowa's outcomes over the past seven years or so (2019 to 2025) is roughly equivalent to Pelini's performance.
No need for that. I am already on my way out. I appreciate everyone else tolerating me and engaging in (mostly) friendly debate. Until next year!
Undone
All-American
Just want to again reiterate how lame it was for you to believe that Iowa was in the mix for getting into the playoffs this year.
You went on to paint a fantasy where you didn’t lose to Indiana or Oregon. Alright. Let’s go with that fantasy for a moment.
You’d then get blown out by Ohio State in the B1G title game, and there’d have been no way the committee takes Iowa over Indiana when IU & OSU hadn’t had a chance to play each other.
Iowa was nowhere close to being in the mix for the playoffs this season. Nowhere close.
Last edited: