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Does NDSU's Cole Payton (formerly of Omaha Westside) have a year of eligibility left? Would be a nice band-aid if we could get him.
Does NDSU's Cole Payton (formerly of Omaha Westside) have a year of eligibility left? Would be a nice band-aid if we could get him.
I stand by what I said. We needed to start off hot and we started off the opposite of that with embarrassing optics around the program again. Rhule said we have the money to get who we need and we have a GM being paid good money to not blow this. Not saying they won’t turn it around and I hope they do, but losing out on SDSU guys and our top qb pick amongst others wasn’t the hot start Rhule and this fan base needs.Oklahoma is a playoff team. Oklahmoa State hired a new coach, and 14 of their 18 commits (including all of the higher-rated ones) are just following their coach. They also have 61 outgoing players in the portal. As far as I can tell, none of USF's commits were starters at their previous schools
The way I understand it, our staff kept asking for the signed paperwork and he kept delaying it. Also, he never gave our staff a chance to counter offer. Not sure what else our staff could have done.Blame the agent (and maybe our staff for not getting an actual signature) - I think he got $2 million from Kentucky because they whiffed on Leavitt which is double what we were offering. This is bad all around on our part, but it would also be bad to throw $2 million at Minchey IMO. We should not have put all of our eggs in one basket, but we have other needs to address with that money as well. And Kentucky was reportedly offering Leavitt $5-7 million, so they would probably continue to up the bid. For what it's worth, I think it's a mistake on Kentucky's part - maybe Minchey is just incredible, but their roster also has big holes and throwing money at an unproven QB doesn't fix those.
All that being said, our staff has absolutely failed to execute a reasonable plan at the QB spot.
The way I understand it, our staff kept asking for the signed paperwork and he kept delaying it. Also, he never gave our staff a chance to counter offer. Not sure what else our staff could have done.
What is more funny is PSU loading their roster with ISU level players. Remind me again how Iowa St made the playoffs this year. Are they going to magically do better in a tougher conference in Happy Valley.Iowa State better do well. They only had 18 left on their roster. They may have to play D-1 8-man FB next year!![]()
Your #1 QB option told you he was coming. He even went in the portal saying "don't contact me" because he was coming here. He commits like he said he was going to for a while.Hindsight is 20/20, but I have to wonder if they could've read the room better and realized he didn't want to come here and was using us to get a better offer. I don't have a problem with the strategy in general (find a cheaper QB you think you can work with and build the rest of the roster), but it is a bad look when the QB bails and there aren't a lot of great options.
Completely agree.What is more funny is PSU loading their roster with ISU level players. Remind me again how Iowa St made the playoffs this year. Are they going to magically do better in a tougher conference in Happy Valley.
This sport has become epically stupid.
I agree with most of your post. I think it would have been bad to toss 2 mil to Minchey and Kentucky is willing to take that risk. With that said, I still have a problem automatically assuming Nebraska and the staff "dropped the ball". Prior to the portal officially opening, we felt good about Minchey. Basically on day day, Minchey agrees in principle to play for Nebraska for 1 mil (assuming reports are correct). At this point Nebraska is in great shape...we didn't overpay for a possible quality kid and NOW we have our guy. I am sure that we have other irons in the fire, but they are probably back up guys. How is it our fault when the agent and kid only committed as a bargaining chip for another program and pulls away without letting us counter? What are the coaches supposed to do???? Not much they can do if someone "breaks" an agreement. Now we will pursue the best guy available that fits our system and wants to play for Nebraska for the $$ we offer.Blame the agent (and maybe our staff for not getting an actual signature) - I think he got $2 million from Kentucky because they whiffed on Leavitt which is double what we were offering. This is bad all around on our part, but it would also be bad to throw $2 million at Minchey IMO. We should not have put all of our eggs in one basket, but we have other needs to address with that money as well. And Kentucky was reportedly offering Leavitt $5-7 million, so they would probably continue to up the bid. For what it's worth, I think it's a mistake on Kentucky's part - maybe Minchey is just incredible, but their roster also has big holes and throwing money at an unproven QB doesn't fix those.
All that being said, our staff has absolutely failed to execute a reasonable plan at the QB spot.
Weird how people want to blame the coach/program/school because a commit had no integrity, within a system that has no rules, borders or limits.Hindsight is 20/20, but I have to wonder if they could've read the room better and realized he didn't want to come here and was using us to get a better offer. I don't have a problem with the strategy in general (find a cheaper QB you think you can work with and build the rest of the roster), but it is a bad look when the QB bails and there aren't a lot of great options.
I heard we were south of a mil..Kentucky insiders saying we offered Minchey $3M over 2 years ($1.25/$1.75M). After losing Leavitt Kentucky came over the top with $3M for 1 year.